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post #16 of 27
11/25/11 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

Heya,

 

The M50 does decent enough bass. But at it's price point, there are simply better headphones that do the bass, and everything else, better.

 

Very best,



Examples? I've been recommending the M50 to my casual listener friends who want a portable headphone.

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post #17 of 27
11/25/11 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by thrillhaus View Post



Examples?


Merely my preference and opinions:

 

Shure 840

Ultrasone HFI 580

Panasonic HTF600

Sony XB500 (equalized)

Beyer DT770 PRO

 

I found the M50 to have a cramped sound stage, did bass well, but its mids and treble were nothing to write home about, and were even a little harsh in the upper ranges, uncomfortable to wear. The best things about the M50 is that the cups swivel 180degrees, which I really liked and they're built like a tank, very durable, very rugged, they should survive a torturous owner. But sonically, I reach for other headphones, the M50 were more of a benchmark since it was widely recommended, and after owning them, I can only say, I learned my lesson about listening to hype. End of the day, you've just got to hear a headphone yourself. But on the other hand, people dog on the DT770 PRO all the time and call it muddy, yet I think it sounds better than the M50 and isn't muddy at all. So who knows? To each their own obviously. One thing for sure: there's a lot more out there than the M50.

 

Very best,

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post #18 of 27
11/25/11 at 1:39pm

I wish I got the opportunity to listen to more headphones frown.gif

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post #19 of 27
11/25/11 at 1:48pm
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I wish I got the opportunity to listen to more headphones frown.gif


Can't get to any meets? Where do you live?

 

Very best,

 

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post #20 of 27
11/25/11 at 3:41pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post


Merely my preference and opinions:

 

Shure 840

Ultrasone HFI 580

Panasonic HTF600

Sony XB500 (equalized)

Beyer DT770 PRO

 

I found the M50 to have a cramped sound stage, did bass well, but its mids and treble were nothing to write home about, and were even a little harsh in the upper ranges, uncomfortable to wear. The best things about the M50 is that the cups swivel 180degrees, which I really liked and they're built like a tank, very durable, very rugged, they should survive a torturous owner. But sonically, I reach for other headphones, the M50 were more of a benchmark since it was widely recommended, and after owning them, I can only say, I learned my lesson about listening to hype. End of the day, you've just got to hear a headphone yourself. But on the other hand, people dog on the DT770 PRO all the time and call it muddy, yet I think it sounds better than the M50 and isn't muddy at all. So who knows? To each their own obviously. One thing for sure: there's a lot more out there than the M50.

 

Very best,


I agree but i find it hard to believe that the htf600 really is better then the m50 at $30. I also don't feel the xb500 is better (auditioned it at the sony store). I think for what the ath m50 does it's a great starter can for beginners.

 

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post #21 of 27
11/25/11 at 3:51pm

The XB500 is notorious for responding well to equalization and also sounding mediocre stock. The HTF600 is very similar in my opinion, but when I A/B tested it against the M50 I felt the M50 pulls out a bit more detail than the $30 headphones. The HTF600 does have fantastic value for the price, though.

 

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Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor View Post


I agree but i find it hard to believe that the htf600 really is better then the m50 at $30. I also don't feel the xb500 is better (auditioned it at the sony store). I think for what the ath m50 does it's a great starter can for beginners.

 


 

 

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post #22 of 27
11/27/11 at 4:37am
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post


Can't get to any meets? Where do you live?

 

Very best,

 



Delaware in the USA. I can't drive either(legally blind) so I find it very hard to get out of state easily, I usually just pay people gas money to give me rides out of state. In state though, I can pretty much go anywhere for free since I have some benefits for being apart of the division for the visually impaired. Regardless, I've still never heard of any meets around my immediate states.

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post #23 of 27
11/27/11 at 4:41am

Well at least in Tyll's test which have been very accurate, the M50 doesn't measure up to be bassheavy, just as my ears was trying to tell me.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50.pdf

 

Well perhaps there's different samples floating around that measure a bit differently but my pair sounded very much like that graph and I didn't think mids sounded recessed (in fact they always stood out to be the loudest) and I also noticed very well the peak at around 8kHz when EQing.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/27/11 at 4:45am
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post #24 of 27
11/27/11 at 4:45am

 

 

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Well at least in Tyll's test which have been very accurate, the M50 doesn't measure up to be bassheavy, just as my ears was trying to tell me.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50.pdf

Well perhaps there's different samples floating around that measure a bit differently but my pair sounded very much like that graph and I didn't think mids sounded that recessed and I also noticed very well the peak at 8kHz when EQing.

 


+1.

 

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post #25 of 27
11/27/11 at 4:50am
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

Well at least in Tyll's test which have been very accurate, the M50 doesn't measure up to be bassheavy, just as my ears was trying to tell me.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50.pdf

 

Well perhaps there's different samples floating around that measure a bit differently but my pair sounded very much like that graph and I didn't think mids sounded recessed (in fact they always stood out to be the loudest) and I also noticed very well the peak at around 8kHz when EQing.



Yeah I think that sounds correct to me. In order to get HUGE bass from the M50's, I have to tighten up the seal a bit(basically just pull up the cup position on my big head) and then turn the volume up kinda loud. That'll make the bass rock but even then, it is a bit disappointing for some really bass heavy sections. The low-mids though are pretty prevalent.

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post #26 of 27
11/27/11 at 4:56am
Thread Starter 
Mids on these are a joke and hugely recessed compared to my srh840. The m50 is also very harsh to my ears.
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post #27 of 27
11/27/11 at 5:21am
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Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor View Post

Mids on these are a joke and hugely recessed compared to my srh840. The m50 is also very harsh to my ears.


You should try the AIAIAI TMA-1 next ~ total car crash of a headphone that one, I must audition another as the

only one I've auditioned made the M50 seem transparent by comparison.

 

They sell for $330aud over here, that's just criminal.

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