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post #121 of 348
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Guys,

 

I don't understand the analog out. I thought that was line-level from the DAC before the amp. Why is the volume pot involved? And why wouldn't all-the-way-up be line level? Line level is about 5% on the volume pod when outputting to my RS P-51. Is the analog out amped from the Audioengine?? 


My understanding is the audio goes from DAC through Volume to the RCA out, with a line-level signal (RCA is not amp'd).  The volume acts as an "attenuator-only" for the line out, and there is no amplification.  My DACmini does the same, while on the HDP the RCA out has gain and it's a pre-amp.  Then, when headphones are plugged in the signal is routed to the headphone amp instead of the RCA jacks.

 

post #122 of 348

so according to your review you prefer the dacport to the d1 for the hd600?

 

i am probably going to purchase the hd600 and i have the westone es5 and um1s so i am in a dilemma on which dac amp to get 

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so according to your review you prefer the dacport to the d1 for the hd600?

 

i am probably going to purchase the hd600 and i have the westone es5 and um1s so i am in a dilemma on which dac amp to get 



I currently use both the D1 and the DACport, though with low-impedance phones (Denon D2000, D5000, Grado HF2) and IEMs (Ety HF5). So while I can't comment on their performance with the hd600s and other high impedance phones, I do find that in my setup the DACport sounds audibly purer, more delicate, and a little more detailed than the D1. It images a little better, too, and does a noticeably better job of making instruments sound distinct from each other. In comparison, various instruments heard through the D1 sounds a little grayish and undifferentiated in timbre, as though made from the same material. And that's comparing the D1 heard through a good (glass) TOSlink cable—I find the USB input on the D1 pretty unremarkable, while the DACport's USB implementation seems far more thorough—the DACport's sonic background are also noticeably quieter than the D1s over either input, even at maximum gain. The DACport has pretty good impact, too, and hits hard when it needs to. The only areas where I prefer the D1 are bass—the DACport sounds tight but a little light—and drive: the D1 just has more, and sounds more authoritative when pushed. Most of the time, lately, I find myself plugging in the DACport, and the D1 isn't getting much use.

 

Hope this helps.

post #124 of 348
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so according to your review you prefer the dacport to the d1 for the hd600?

 

i am probably going to purchase the hd600 and i have the westone es5 and um1s so i am in a dilemma on which dac amp to get 


If you are using ES5, UM1 and HD600 I would recommend the DACport.

 

post #125 of 348

thanks

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I'm wondering if it's worth spending the extra for the Icon HDP over the D1 to drive a set of Audioengine 5+ and/or Beyer DT990s fed by my MacBook Pro. Anyone have any thoughts??

 

I suspect it'll be swings and roundabouts, the HDP may be a slightly better performer, but the D1 can be bus powered, which I don't think is a feature of the HDP. Savings can go toward a Peachtree iNova.. ;)

post #127 of 348

audioengine 5+ powered speaker, no?

post #128 of 348
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I'm wondering if it's worth spending the extra for the Icon HDP over the D1 to drive a set of Audioengine 5+ and/or Beyer DT990s fed by my MacBook Pro. Anyone have any thoughts??

 

I suspect it'll be swings and roundabouts, the HDP may be a slightly better performer, but the D1 can be bus powered, which I don't think is a feature of the HDP. Savings can go toward a Peachtree iNova.. ;)


I don't know if the 5+ are resolving enough to hear a big improvement with the HDP.  On the other hand I'm not sure the HDP will have good synergy with any Beyer headphone.

 

post #129 of 348

Went with the D1 and the little Audioengine a2s. Quite a nice little combo for desktop computer audio for mot much more than watching youtube and a few TV shows or background music while surfing...

 

Using optical out of the MBP to the D1, and Van den Hul D102 MkIII Hybrid interconnects to the a2s. (The VDH ic's are a bit overkill for the setup, but they were sitting in a box doing nothing else.. biggrin.gif )

 

The D1 drives my 250Ohm DT990s quite well with great clarity, but doesn't have the same grunt at the low end as my older mains powered Zhaolu D2 DAC/amp. I've been pondering an upgrade to the T5p and the portability of the MBP/D1 with some T5p beyers is becoming very tempting... 192k/24bit flac files play back perfectly over optical too, but most of my audio is 256-320k MP3/AAC, and the D1 isn't too analytical to make them sound bad. The combo of the D1 and "fun" sounding cans like the DT990s is quite forgiving of source content, but hugely enjoyable to listen to..

 

Early days yet, but the D1 is great value at $169. beyersmile.png

 

 


Edited by Kirium - 3/30/12 at 9:40pm
post #130 of 348
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Went with the D1 and the little Audioengine a2s. Quite a nice little combo for desktop computer audio for mot much more than watching youtube and a few TV shows or background music while surfing...

 

Using optical out of the MBP to the D1, and Van den Hul D102 MkIII Hybrid interconnects to the a2s. (The VDH ic's are a bit overkill for the setup, but they were sitting in a box doing nothing else.. biggrin.gif )

 

The D1 drives my 250Ohm DT990s quite well with great clarity, but doesn't have the same grunt at the low end as my older mains powered Zhaolu D2 DAC/amp. I've been pondering an upgrade to the T5p and the portability of the MBP/D1 with some T5p beyers is becoming very tempting... 192k/24bit flac files play back perfectly over optical too, but most of my audio is 256-320k MP3/AAC, and the D1 isn't too analytical to make them sound bad. The combo of the D1 and "fun" sounding cans like the DT990s is quite forgiving of source content, but hugely enjoyable to listen to..

 

Early days yet, but the D1 is great value at $169. beyersmile.png

 

 


 

While I haven't heard the T5p, I have read that the DT-1350 is much better.  If you are set on Beyer, maybe consider those.  I thought the 1350 was decent sounding at RMAF, but preferred the smoother Fostex T50RP.

post #131 of 348

Not looking at the T50p, but the T5p... 

 

I've heard the same about the DT1350 over the T50p.

post #132 of 348
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While I haven't heard the T5p, I have read that the DT-1350 is much better.  If you are set on Beyer, maybe consider those.  I thought the 1350 was decent sounding at RMAF, but preferred the smoother Fostex T50RP.


 

 

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Not looking at the T50p, but the T5p... 

 

I've heard the same about the DT1350 over the T50p.


 

I'm not talking about the T50p.  I said "FOSTEX T50RP".  Fostex was 2 tables away from the Beyer table at RMAF, and I liked the Fostex better.

post #133 of 348

Are you talking about a stock pair of t50rps?

post #134 of 348
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Are you talking about a stock pair of t50rps?


They didn't have any other kind at the Fostex table.  I liked the T50RP more than their new Fostex headphones (which sounded more recessed in the mids than any Denon).  I think a modded T50RP (thunder pants) should sound wonderful.  Anyway, back on topic?

post #135 of 348

Anyway going back to topic, has anyone compared the audioengine dac to the FiiO E10 yet? I am really looking forward to know how this sounds vs the e10 ampwise, dacwise, and as an entire package.

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