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post #436 of 1137
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Originally Posted by Appless View Post

How do you find the MJ compared to the BHA-1 with the LCD-3?

 

 

They are very similar, but i prefer the BHA-1 by a small margin. The BHA-1 is a little more engaging and musical, while the MJ can be somewhat dry with the LCD-3.
 
I've never heard the LCD-3 sound harsh or aggressive in comparison to other headphones, but I can understand why some may use those terms. The Mjolnir comes very close to changing the essential character of the LCD-3, while the Bryston is very energetic and lively without going quite as far.
post #437 of 1137
If you want euphonic you want an Eximus DP1.

I have a PWD2 and Eximus w/ Mjolnir. Very nice setups.
post #438 of 1137
I've compared the two amps before with the HD800, and your comments are very similar to my own. I found the BHA-1 to have more resolution leading to a more enveloping, engaging sound. The Mjolnir had a bit of a rounded sound, especially up top and while the sound was vibrant and powerful, I went with the BHA-1 despite the price difference.
post #439 of 1137
Thanks everyone for suggestions/advice/info!
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Originally Posted by m2man View Post

If you want euphonic you want an Eximus DP1.

I have a PWD2 and Eximus w/ Mjolnir. Very nice setups.

When you're running the eximus with the lcd3s, are you using its internal amp or the mjolnir with it?
post #440 of 1137
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

It's a jab at other companies that sell balanced amps that at some point from input to output are single ended.

 

Glad this came up. Some poster(s) on this site said the BHA-1 is basically balanced input connectors and balanced output connection with signal processing converted to single-ended internally. Is this true? 

post #441 of 1137
It (roughly) is, but it doesn't mean it's any worse.
post #442 of 1137
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post

Euphoric, euphonic. Who's keeping score? biggrin.gif

What he said.

post #443 of 1137
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

It (roughly) is, but it doesn't mean it's any worse.

 

Well, to me, there are two ways to look at this. One is to say, "I don't care a whit about teckkie stuff, I listen with my ears. They could implement their circuit with voodoo and vaseline as long as it sounds better than the competition."  A classic example is single-ended triode amps: measure horrible, sound splendiferous. With balanced differential circuitry, however, there are legitimate technical benefits that accrue from really doing it (e.g., common mode noise rejection, lowered even-order distortion). I agree that absolutely brilliant sounding single-ended designs exist and have earned their high places in audio history. Fine, so call it single-ended and be proud. But to market a product as balanced (it's all over Bryston's promo copy) when it really is an unbalanced amplifier with some XLR connections stuck on seems to me, well, intellectually dishonest. And yes, I think that reflects on the people who sell it.  mad.gif

post #444 of 1137
No, I mean those technological benefits are still present in the BHA-1. I forgot where the post was that talked about it, though.

edit: Here is what I found in my search, but I remember a series of posts discussing the topic.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/560499/new-headphone-amplifier-from-bryston/645#post_8873106

edit #2: OK found it. It starts here and goes on for... a while..

http://www.head-fi.org/t/603218/schiit-mjolnir-headphone-amplifier/1545#post_8786986
Edited by Maxvla - 2/17/13 at 11:10pm
post #445 of 1137

Short of it is the BHA-1 uses a differential input then feeds it single ended to the pot and balance, then into an inverting discrete amp with gain for single ended and one leg of balanced, the output of that also feeds the same discrete inverting amp setup for unity gain to give the other side of the balanced leg.  And then instead of using a servo they use a cap to couple the output.  It 'works' it's just not pretty.

post #446 of 1137
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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

Thanks everyone for suggestions/advice/info!
When you're running the eximus with the lcd3s, are you using its internal amp or the mjolnir with it?
internal amp == yak
Some people like it with some phones. I don't like it with any.
post #447 of 1137
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Short of it is the BHA-1 uses a differential input then feeds it single ended to the pot and balance, then into an inverting discrete amp with gain for single ended and one leg of balanced, the output of that also feeds the same discrete inverting amp setup for unity gain to give the other side of the balanced leg.  And then instead of using a servo they use a cap to couple the output.  It 'works' it's just not pretty.

Thank you, Solude. The point being it's a balanced amp and more importantly, even though it just 'works' it's still a great sounding amp.

post #448 of 1137
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Thank you, Solude. The point being it's a balanced amp and more importantly, even though it just 'works' it's still a great sounding amp.

 

I agree completely paradoxper

The BHA-1 sounds great with the HD-800 and the LCD-3

IMO, much better than the Soloist, which it kicked to the curb

post #449 of 1137

It might well be, I've tried a few times to buy one but the deal always falls through.  How did the Soloist and BHA-1 compare/contrast?  Lots of Mjolnir comparisons but they tend make me want to steer clear of the BHA-1.

post #450 of 1137

what is a good balanced cable to use with the lcd-3 on a gung/mojo? Is there any kind I should stay away from due to the aggressive nature of the combo?

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