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post #301 of 390
The DM+ is really good IMO. It's just missing a digital display for volume and a remote, otherwise SQ is really good. The volume control is fine.
post #302 of 390

I always found the DM+ to be a great value.

post #303 of 390
Excuse the noob question but I'm wanting to buy the dac magic plus as a dac only. I've got a tube amp wa3, how would I bypass the internal amp of the dac? If I use a toslink cable to connect it to my pc and then RCA to the wa3. Will this effectively bypass the amp on the dac magic plus or would it be double amping. Cheers
post #304 of 390

The DM+'s amp is only viable if you are plugged into it.  If you are plugged into the WA3 then it will be your amp and the DM+ is DAC only for that application.

post #305 of 390
Thank you for the info I'm stuck between the bitfrost dac and dac magic plus money isn't a worry. The only reason I'm worried about the Bitfrost is because its a sponsor of headhifi and I'm not sure if the hype is as good as the dacmagic
post #306 of 390
I have never heard the BiFrost. It is highly regarded around here. The DM+ is more versatile with its HPamp and Balanced inputs. I suspect you will be pleased with either one. Two nice choices for their price points.
post #307 of 390

Just got my DacMagic Plus yesterday and use it with Bootlehead S.E.X. and definitely prefer it over Bifrost Uber because of better details retrieval. Don't want to derail thread with off topic but the cables you use to connect your gear will make difference

Edited by olegausany - 11/7/13 at 5:25pm
post #308 of 390
Sorry guys, don't know if this is the wrong thread to ask this question but the other thread is kinda dead but:

Is the dac magic 100 worth getting for about 200 bucks or should I save up more to get this dac magic plus?

I've got the aune t1 atm, are the dac magic (both versions) much better than the aune t1? Is it worth the upgrade?

Thanks in advance wink.gif
post #309 of 390

I can support the original review. I had a DM+ on loan when my m-dac was being fixed awhile back (had a dry joint caused one channel to fail). I compared DM+ to a nuforce hdp that normally runs my kitchen speakers and the nuforce sounded better. I did like the DM+ build and features though. It was solid and no annoying personality traits - if it were a car it would be a Toyota Camry.  

post #310 of 390

I would shell out the extra $$$ for the plus. the added features plus the better sound quality are worth it. I bought one about 2 years ago and loved it so much with my main system I bought a second one for my mini system. I can't even imagine listening to music in my home without it. It brings everything to life.


It's the best 'dollar for dollar' dac money can buy, IMO. 


Ken Rockwell put up a very thorough review : http://kenrockwell.com/audio/cambridge/dacmagic-plus.htm


"It has the best performance I've ever measured over USB of any DAC at any price. It's completely immune to even the slightest jitter that other excellent DACs can't remove from USB, as well as often the best performances I've measured for distortion. I installed no software, and magically it fed itself with 96 ksps audio via USB from iTunes on my Mac"


Be warned though - it is true clean representation of the music - and very unforgiving for poor recordings or audio!

post #311 of 390

I'd really like to see them put out a revision with a volume readout.

post #312 of 390

A friend made me a great deal on a pair of Sennheiser HD-800's and ruined my life.  Ok, no, not really, but I'm having difficulty finding something I want to plug em into and I've stuck the jack into every socket I find.  I've never done that with any headphones I've had before, but these things are turning me into an obsessive.  They are very unforgiving.  And because I'm a cheap bastard I'm not going easy into the price bracket that people say these cans demand.  So I got the DacMagic Plus from my local used and new audiophile store.  I got it from the new side because they don't do headphone gear on the used side.  I'll be returning it while I can still get all my money back.

As a DAC, it's not bad at all.  For the price, as a DAC, it's not bad at all.  If I didn't already have an Oppo BDP-105 blu-ray player that I use for a DAC, I would keep this.  I see why the original DacMagic has the fanbase it does.  Unfortunately the headphone amp they built into this thing is not up to the same standard.  If I had to use one word to describe it, it would be thin.  A second word might be shrill, but that would make it sound worse than it is.  It isn't too fatiguing, but I did take a few breaks over the course of my 8 hour shift.  I don't mind that the volume control doesn't have numbers to show what level it's at, but not having control of bass, treble, and gain is puzzling.  Other than the headphone output, this is the best product I've tried from CA.  I'd recommend this unit as a standalone DAC, but not as a headphone amp.  As a DAC it is better than the output on common disc players and receivers.  I have A/B tested it versus 3 receivers (Harmon / Kardon, Onkyo, and Yamaha) and my Integra home theater processor and all of them sounded better.  It's a better DAC than the Onkyo and Yamaha, hands down.  The HK is a little older so it's DAC won't do 24/192, but for the other tracks I like it better.  Newer isn't always better with DACs, but they can be more compatible.  All the receivers I tested came from thrift stores for less than $50.  The Integra came from ebay and cost quite a bit more, so it's appropriate that it's the best thing I've plugged the HD-800's into yet (with the Oppo as the DAC feeding in through the balanced inputs.  I like the Integra's headphone output better than the headphone output on the Oppo even, but I haven't tested that enough to eliminate volume differences and tone control from the equation).  Yada, yada, I digress...  The point I'm trying to make here is that a dedicate headphone amp should sound better than just about ANY receiver and, sadly, the headphone output on the DacMagic Plus beat NONE of them which is surprising and disappointing.  I hope CA takes note and fixes it in the next revision.  Could be a killer product at this price point.  Great DAC, crummy headphone amp.  Also, they really should add an analog input.  A phono input would be great too, but seriously, I'm surprised it doesn't have analog in.

post #313 of 390

Could anyone tell me if Dacmagic Plus should remember volume level in preamp mode because mine does not. Also in the fixed output mode the volume level is too high rather, zooms across my Phonitor gauges red zones all the time.



post #314 of 390
Just keep it on all the time
post #315 of 390

so it doesn't remember volume settings, real bummer

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