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post #901 of 1418
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post


700 aud price not bad at all. Hope that includes international shipping cost also?

doubt it, it's the first time ive been on that site

post #902 of 1418
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

For me the HD800 when well complemented by a very good amp is few levels ahead of the ESP950 to my ears. This doesn't say the ESP950 is crap (though the stock amp is fairly a shocker). I'd say buy the ESP950 and give it a go as it may be a good sidegrade to you. I'm almost itching to buy 2 sets, 1 for stock and 1 to remove the stator diaphragm and find a good foster phone for it and see what mods from there onwards I can tune it to my taste. I believe only spritzer has most likely done something similar to this process mentioned.

I see. I agree, I think hd800 bass texture is very good and hit very hard, not quantity, but attack.
But something about esp950 smoothness I think I have to have one in my collection.
post #903 of 1418
The HD800 costs around 2x the ESP950, and without an amp at that. I'm sure the HD800 is superior, but for the $700 range that I see the ESP950 go for, it's gonna sit pretty comfortably as the headphone to beat at that price, the HE500 being the other real alternative, at least AFAIK. The jump from a dynamic presentation to an electrostatic one has quite a few improvements, so I don't know of any dynamic in that price range to compare. Shure 1840, HD700, maybe Beyer T90? Opinions on all three have been quite polarizing.

I'll wait and see how the Kingsound Emperor stat stacks up, which at $800 for it and the amp, may be another contender.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/27/13 at 10:35pm
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I actually picked up my 950 after realizing I didn't have enough for an HE-500 + amp. How would you compare the two?

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Double post.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/27/13 at 10:47pm
post #906 of 1418
Sadly I haven't heard the HE500. Im fairly certain they either very comparable as the ESP950 gets pretty close to the LCD2 which I'm comparing directly.

The 950 lacks the lower end of the LCD2 (obviously), but the mids are very comparable, and the treble is more airy. Overall, they do share a similar tonality, both warm, but the 950 isnt in your face like the LCD2, and sounds more generally stable and balanced. I see it as a stat HD650, with more air in the upper range and better overall soundstage, and without the mid bass hump.

That or what I'd assume the Mad Dogs would sound like if they were open.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/27/13 at 10:54pm
post #907 of 1418
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Originally Posted by aj-kun View Post

http://www.douglashifi.com.au/1658/37/headphones/audiophile-headphones/koss-electrostatic-esp950-detail.html

 

Stumbled on this whilst searching for speakers.

$700 for Aussies. (think I saw them or $1200 on another site)

Many thanks for the link - great price for Aus - am getting a pair!

post #908 of 1418
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The jump from a dynamic presentation to an electrostatic one has quite a few improvements, so I don't know of any dynamic in that price range to compare. Shure 1840, HD700, maybe Beyer T90? Opinions on all three have been quite polarizing.

 

No to the 1840 and HD700. The HD700 is a major failure on Sennheiser's behalf, not much of an upgrade over the HD600/650 range, not much of a smaller and less expensive HD800 younger brother. It's a lost sheep.

post #909 of 1418
Yeah, I've been hearing that. Same with the T90 being a massive failure, though both cans have their fans. As for the 1840, I'd love to hear them, but complaints of lack of bass have kept me from looking into them anymore than being smitten by it's sexiness.
post #910 of 1418

I've heard the SRH1840 once briefly, liked it quite a bit as it sounded like a refined version of the SRH940. I also think it looks smexy as well. 

post #911 of 1418
Looking at the 1840's graph (headroom), they seem similar to the ESP950's graphs (Purrin's graph) frequency response.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/28/13 at 12:08am
post #912 of 1418
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Looking at the 1840's graph (headroom), they seem similar to the ESP950's graphs (Purrin's graph) frequency response.

You can't expect to derive anything out of comparing FR of two headphones from two separate measurement archives (different equipment/compensations).

 

Purrin measured SRH1840 too you know, those and only those can be justifiably compared to his ESP950 measurement. Ditto with the Headroom FRs.


Edited by jerg - 4/28/13 at 1:07am
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

You can't expect to derive anything out of comparing FR of two headphones from two separate measurement archives (different equipment/compensations).

 

+1. Objective /= Subjective findings.

post #914 of 1418
Purrin and Tyll use totally different measurement techniques and apply totally different compensation curves. It is absolutely pointless to cross-compare them.

The ESP 950 is definitely one of the headphones to beat, though probably not the only one. The basic Stax system is very good too, and a well-driven HD600 will do absolute wonders with a good source. Plus, you're now creeping up on custom-molded IEM territory, which can make a lot of sense given how great they can sound and how easy they are to drive by just about anything.

There are options, and if you go vintage and DIY there are even more options. However, encounters with headphones that are actually worth their asking price will make you wonder what the heck the rest of the market is doing.
post #915 of 1418
Had the ESP for about a week now.  It's nice. I like it.. don't love it.  I think the lack of extension at both ends is what's keeping me from going totally gaga for it.  It's nice to (finally) hear what the 'stat' sound is all about.. I get the allure.  That clean, effortless, airy presentation.  It's laid back, but not sleepy or slow.  That's really impressive.  It reminds me of the RE262 in many ways.  Thing is, the Fischer Audio FA-002w High Edition (w/ Karelian Birch cups) approximates the sound (and technicalities) surprisingly well.  The HE has that same airy, fast, open sound (albeit from a dynamic driver).. it's brighter and the mids aren't quite as absorbing & effortless as the ESP's one-of-a-kind midrange.. but the HE offers better fq extension, is closed (for private listening).. and I don't need a "special" amp to drive it.  The ESP certainly has a unique sound that would appeal to a wider audience than the 'picky' sound the HE possesses.  The ESP's liquid midrange is quite unlike anything I've heard.. but that isn't enough for me to overlook the things it lacks.
 
The ESP feels like a really fun, 'niche' phone I'd get down with from time to time.. but I'm not sure it's something worth keeping around (and adding to the clutter of gear I already have) long term.  Having the HD800 but a few feet away isn't doing it any favors either.  The HD800 & ESP are pretty complimentary.. but really, the HD800 is more than capable of being my do-it-all phone and it offers more flexibility since I can more easily (and affordably) alter what it's paired with upstream.  I came away very impressed with the ESP and certainly appreciate what it offers, but I don't think I'll be keeping it.  It's a terrific value in that you get a whole lotta sound w/o needing to buy anything else.. but I place too high a value on the things it lacks for me to want to love it.
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