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What I have heard from some of the AT fans here is that the latest versions of ESW9's sound quite similar to the ESW10's. I have no way of verifying that myself however, as I've only demoed ESW9 for short periods, and a long time ago.

Interesting indeed. I know I did not expect the closed-back, on-ear, woodies to have anything substantial in common with the ESP/950. But they do. redface.gif
post #527 of 1317

Currently quite addicted to these. Would have never thought the sound can be this fun and exciting while being this quick and transparent! Grado-ey in that sense except for the typical Grado downfalls like etchy highs and no bass extension.  beyersmile.png

post #528 of 1317
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Currently quite addicted to these. Would have never thought the sound can be this fun and exciting while being this quick and transparent! Grado-ey in that sense except for the typical Grado downfalls like etchy highs and no bass extension.  beyersmile.png

Most graydoze sound like the music is coming out of someones nose to me.

post #529 of 1317

These sound so good so far that I'm currently seriously contemplating abandoning Dynamics altogether and look further into the land of E-stats very_evil_smiley.gif ... this has been hell of a gateway drug into electrostatics thus far.

 

Granted, the Koss from what I hear are apparently quite different from the Stax, so perhaps not a wise decision without having a listen to some first at a meet or something... What differences would I notice by going from the Koss to let's say... the Omega 007 MK1 or II? I do have the LCD-2 rev.1's which have been said before to sound somewhat similar in overall sound signature..

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Supposedly, and I haven't tracked a pair down to try, the Lambda STAX are brighter and less bassy (would make sense based on their smaller driver elements), but as a result less colored/more detailed. Omega STAX, I have no idea. I know that between the Koss ESP cans, I have not identified a "common sound" beyond the typical Koss mid-forwardness and warmth.
post #531 of 1317

The warmness of ESP950 is just right and probably not something I'd like to sacrifice, actually. I can get by with something perhaps a tad less forward in the mids, but warmness I'm hearing is nearly perfect amount for these ears biggrin.gif.

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The warmness of ESP950 is just right and probably not something I'd like to sacrifice, actually. I can get by with something perhaps a tad less forward in the mids, but warmness I'm hearing is nearly perfect amount for these ears biggrin.gif .

Yeah they're practically perfect in every way to these ears too. smily_headphones1.gif
post #533 of 1317

Can anyone make a comparison between these and the HiFiMan planars such as the HE-500?

post #534 of 1317

Kind of interested in these.

 

I have the LCD-2 Rev. 2 bamboo & HD-600 w/ the Lyr/Bifrost. I'm damn content with them (outside of LCD's comfort level, which doesn't bother me that much compared to some). When I eventually get a real career, I want to venture into the electrostat cans.

 

Had no idea these existed, and now I'm really tempted to try them out. But honestly, will these even compliment or replace what I have now? Or should I just pass. I've read up and down the thread, and it seems these are a lot faster than the LCD-2's. Basically, wondering if it's worth trying these or if the difference isn't big enough, just wait until I have real money to get the super expensive STAX. 


Edited by satanigatan - 10/21/12 at 2:44pm
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If anyone can actually afford super expensive STAX then the answer is always: go for it.  Remember though that with super expensive STAX, you need super expensive amps with heavy rail voltage.

 

Turned out I really enjoyed the fatigue free tonally featureless sound of the ESP-950s, so I'm having a pair of Paradox built.  They should be similarly flat, but hopefully with some nice orthodynamic impact to the bass.

 

Looking forward to it.

post #536 of 1317

Interesting, thanks for the reply.

 

I guess what I meant was, I really want to try the electrostatic sound. But obviously the price is too high (for now)  . Was just wondering with the current set up I have (HD-600/LCD-2 rev. 2 w. Lyr/Bifrost), if it's worth getting these to get a little taste of the electrostatic sound, or if the difference won't be big enough - so just wait years down the road when I can do STAX. 

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If anyone can actually afford super expensive STAX then the answer is always: go for it.  Remember though that with super expensive STAX, you need super expensive amps with heavy rail voltage.

 

Turned out I really enjoyed the fatigue free tonally featureless sound of the ESP-950s, so I'm having a pair of Paradox built.  They should be similarly flat, but hopefully with some nice orthodynamic impact to the bass.

 

Looking forward to it.

post #537 of 1317

I think you would find the ESP-950 an upgrade over both the HD-600 and the LCD-2v2 unless you are a base-head who cares more about the quality of base slam.  I think you would find the ESP-950 to be faster with more detail than either of your headphones. The only headphones I like better than the ESP-950 are the Senn HD-800, Stax SR-007 and SR-009.  I think of the ESP-950 as a poor man's SR-007.  If you catch one of the Amazon discounted prices, they are a very good deal.  I don't think anything other high end headphones touch their SQ/$ ratio.

 

--Mark

post #538 of 1317

See, that sounds interesting to me. I do actually love bass slam, but I also love clear/fast headphones as well. So it sounds like it would be a good compliment headphone for my set up. Two different flavors.

 

Think I'm going to try these out. :)

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I think you would find the ESP-950 an upgrade over both the HD-600 and the LCD-2v2 unless you are a base-head who cares more about the quality of base slam.  I think you would find the ESP-950 to be faster with more detail than either of your headphones. The only headphones I like better than the ESP-950 are the Senn HD-800, Stax SR-007 and SR-009.  I think of the ESP-950 as a poor man's SR-007.  If you catch one of the Amazon discounted prices, they are a very good deal.  I don't think anything other high end headphones touch their SQ/$ ratio.

 

--Mark

post #539 of 1317

Having tried the 404LE recently if you can find a used pair for the right price I'd go for it. I see a 'set' pop up every now and then. I was really impressed by them.

 

Back to your scheduled 950 talk. 

 

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Originally Posted by satanigatan View Post

See, that sounds interesting to me. I do actually love bass slam, but I also love clear/fast headphones as well. So it sounds like it would be a good compliment headphone for my set up. Two different flavors.

 

Think I'm going to try these out. :)

post #540 of 1317
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Originally Posted by K_19 View Post

These sound so good so far that I'm currently seriously contemplating abandoning Dynamics altogether and look further into the land of E-stats very_evil_smiley.gif ... this has been hell of a gateway drug into electrostatics thus far.

 

Granted, the Koss from what I hear are apparently quite different from the Stax, so perhaps not a wise decision without having a listen to some first at a meet or something... What differences would I notice by going from the Koss to let's say... the Omega 007 MK1 or II? I do have the LCD-2 rev.1's which have been said before to sound somewhat similar in overall sound signature..

 

I'd say you're right; the esp950's have a sound of their own so if you really like them it may be worth hanging onto them before fully committing to Stax.  The o2 is very amp dependent (expensive) while imo the esp950's sound great out of the e/90 from the get go or even the cheaper or more available Stax amps.  For me the biggest downer of the esp950 is pretty much just the way they feel in the hand and on the head compared to the o2 - not exactly sound related tbh.

 

I agree that the lcd-2 rev 1 does have a great deal in common with the o2 - probably 85% of the way there or something like that.

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