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post #1 of 29
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My only pair of headphones [my m50's] have been loved for over a year now and I think its time to upgrade to the Pro 900's. 

 

Yes I did my research and I know that these headphones would be perfect for me since I listen to progressive, house , electro , minimal , techno , tech house , dubstep and rap . [All bass heavy stuff] and even though I cant really try them out before I buy them I know there going to be magic for some odd reason. 

 

I guess my real question is in the amplification [DAC/AMP]. I know that these don't really headphones dont require that much juice, but I heard they really shine if you pair them up with one. [Headstage Arrow?]

 

The issue I'm having is that I do my serious listening at home on my PC , but I do want my setup to be portable and I heard that the portable setups can do as much justice or come close to a full AMP/DAC setup. 

 

 

Also , I feel like I might get other headphones too that might require some amplification [Some Beyer's that need amping] and I want to have that same setup pretty much juice whatever headphone I throw at it . [Caring for the the future to not spend so much money later ]

 

I would say my budget it $750.00    ... so that leaves me about $400.00 to play with it.

 

Any recommendation , advice , or comment is O.K w me . 

 

You head-Fiers Rock. beyersmile.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 29

I just got the Pro 900 and I have an iBasso D6 on its way. It is said to pair very well with them. I'll let you know how it turns out!

post #3 of 29

I dont know how portable the pro900 can be; they are very big although also very light (I think maybe even a little less than the M50). As for amplification I used them out of my HT reciever and they sounded awesome... out of an iphone pretty awesome but at really high volume, out of my LDMKiii not as good but thats to be expected SS amp would be a lot better for these I suspect. You should be very happy with the upgrade although you should be careful with them, for some reason they always made me listen to them at higher level volume then I would normally like.

post #4 of 29
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Originally Posted by BassinURface View Post

My only pair of headphones [my m50's] have been loved for over a year now and I think its time to upgrade to the Pro 900's. 

 

Yes I did my research and I know that these headphones would be perfect for me since I listen to progressive, house , electro , minimal , techno , tech house , dubstep and rap . [All bass heavy stuff] and even though I cant really try them out before I buy them I know there going to be magic for some odd reason. 

 

I guess my real question is in the amplification [DAC/AMP]. I know that these don't really headphones dont require that much juice, but I heard they really shine if you pair them up with one. [Headstage Arrow?]

 

The issue I'm having is that I do my serious listening at home on my PC , but I do want my setup to be portable and I heard that the portable setups can do as much justice or come close to a full AMP/DAC setup. 

 

 

Also , I feel like I might get other headphones too that might require some amplification [Some Beyer's that need amping] and I want to have that same setup pretty much juice whatever headphone I throw at it . [Caring for the the future to not spend so much money later ]

 

I would say my budget it $750.00    ... so that leaves me about $400.00 to play with it.

 

Any recommendation , advice , or comment is O.K w me . 

 

You head-Fiers Rock. beyersmile.png

 


Heya,

 

Have you considered going for the Ultrasone PRO2900 (open)? Or are you set on the PRO900 (closed)?

 

As for powering it, it doesn't take much, but I found the PRO900 to benefit from some amplification (my ears heard the bass tighten and control better, and the treble seemed to smooth out with an amp, but that's just me, ant that was on a tube amp, the little dot mk iii). Depending on what you plan on having, solid state or tube, portable or not, I would say you can't go wrong either way, it's just a matter of preference. I liked the little dot mk iii with the PRO900 for bassy music. It was gorgeous. But I also used it on the go from my Vivid V1 Tech portable amp and it was great too. If you want something to power higher impedance, less efficient headphones later, look at anything that can drive up to 600ohms without breaking a sweat. Or look at something that does upwards of 300ohms without much effort, depending on needs and budget.

 

Amps to check out: Little Dot MK IV (tube), Little Dot MKV (solid state), Schiit Valhalla (tube), Schiit Asgard (solid state). NFB-5 (solid state), HPA V90 (solid state), Fiio E9 (solid state), Matrix M-Stage (solid state), Bottlehead Crack (tube)

 

Many more, but that should start the chain of events...

 

Very best,

 

post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 

*FluffyGDog : Let me know the iBasso pairs up with them .

 

*MalVeauX : Just out of curiousity why would you steer me to the pro 2900's ? Any specific reason ? Im almost sure the PRO 900 would have suited me best.

 

And as for as the amping. [I wish I had more experience with them] .... It looks like Im going to have to get a portable setup and use it with my PC OR im going to get a DAC/AMP for my PC to 

drive all my upcoming headphones and get a seperate portable amp because I really want my ultrasones to sing wherever I go. beyersmile.png

 

From your own experience , which way do you think I should lean .

 

Thanks again for the help ! cool.gif

post #6 of 29
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*MalVeauX : Just out of curiousity why would you steer me to the pro 2900's ? Any specific reason ? Im almost sure the PRO 900 would have suited me best.

 

 

The PRO2900 is the PRO900, but an open-air version. Reports are that it's less zingy in the treble, just as warm and bassy, but gives you a nicer sound stage and a smoother listen. I've not had one, yet, so I cannot confirm personally. But it's worth investigating based on your needs and budget.

 

Very best,
 

 

post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 

Know anything about how the digiZoid ZO pairs up with the PRO 900's?

post #8 of 29
Thread Starter 

I just wanted to give you guys examples if that helps

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K57eTEFwRPE

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7uARcONu5A

Rolling Bassline at 1:00 ...Just amazing.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvc27LAIzw4

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHKFmhEOdnI

dubstep that i like

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqgLzoppyhA

Deep

 

and lastly progressive 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8xg7x4W68

 

 

 

I was just curious If you guys can do a A/B Test with the PRO 900's and the D2000's since I cant try either . 

 

 


Edited by BassinURface - 11/22/11 at 12:50pm
post #9 of 29

I will be able to A/B those tracks later tonight/this week. I have a friend that has D2000s and I have the pro 900.

post #10 of 29
Thread Starter 

You can tell me how the PRO 900's sound by itself :D

post #11 of 29

All of them were pleasing with the Pro 900. Very rich and not disappointing. These genres accentuate the Pro 900's strengths so they performed well. Classical and jazz and some other genres sound a bit weird, though. This is all unamped, that is.

post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by BassinURface View Post

You can tell me how the PRO 900's sound by itself :D


Heya,

 

The PRO900's unfortunately fall on their face with genres that call on mids & treble. Classical is just out right not right on them, a lot of rock sounds flipped upside down, jazz is strange too because again, everything is flipped. There's a huge mid-bass hump on the PRO900's. It will make everything sound very weighted. Even a light acoustic session has weight to it and it shouldn't, it's just weird. Now, if you love bass in everything--and I mean everything--then this may be what you're looking for. But if you're looking for a headphone that can sound normal in things that do not have tons of bass, but pull up serious bass when it's called for, the PRO900 is actually not the one you're looking for. The D5000 is more what you'd probably do well with. Just a thought. All the bass. But keeps great mids & treble.

 

By the way, thanks for that link to Tiesto, that lead me a whole new bunch of music I hadn't gotten my ears around and I'm loading up... *Duke Nuke 'Em's Voice: Groovy*

 

Very best,


Edited by MalVeauX - 11/22/11 at 9:19pm
post #13 of 29
Thread Starter 

To be completely honest, I have a huge electronic collection. The only other genres are listen to are rap and metal. Metal is fast and rap is bass heavy, So Yah, literally everything I listen to has bass in it.

 

Like the examples of songs I put up there is the entire spectrum of electronic music I listen too. I dont know where the discussion of classic and jazz came up , but I absolutely dont listen to any of those genres. With that said what do you guys say?

 

 PRO 900's OR D5000 

 


Jusanother bonus for helping me out *

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWr029mIlx0

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePA7goqmXU How about that for bass -_-

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvpeubXfamw&feature=related 1:15 Says everything about my music taste.

 

With that being said any last helping closing comments?

 

 

 

 

post #14 of 29

Heya,

 

PRO900 if you want a bit of isolation, big bass, and don't mind that mids & treble will take a back seat to it (though the treble will still be bright and shine right through, might be an issue if you crank up the volume for pulsing bass; EQ that down maybe).

D5000 if you want to retain mids & have a wide sound stage (and more comfort; and wood back aesthetic) while having warm humming strumming loads of bass bathing your face.

 

Obviously cost is a factor. A new D5000 ain't cheap. A used one costs what a new PRO900 costs. So it may come down to that simply.

 

Personally I'd put you on the D5000. I say this as someone who started with the PRO900 for this very same reason--then went D2000 because I wanted more than just bass (I'm a fan of sub-bass more than mid-bass humps)--then D5000 for an even warmer signature without the recessed mids. So I can't help but recommend the D5000 for this sort of music. Not only does it sonically do it with authority, but it's able to do all genres justice, not just one, and it does it with serous comfort and with beautiful mahogany woodbacks and a nylon cable. Details my friend. Details.

 

Very best,


Edited by MalVeauX - 11/23/11 at 12:42am
post #15 of 29
Thread Starter 

If you can explain the diffrence between sub-bass and mid-bass humps I'd be able to pick which headphones to get. -_- 

 

Sorry again for the noobish comments.

 

wow at the beginning of this thread I was trying to find an amp solution for my PRO 900's now im getting a D5000. 

 

Im pretty happy about my decision im not gonna lie :] 

 

So now that you know exactly what kind of music I listen to any DAC/AMP suggestions for PC or even portable setup? 

Im sure those beasts definitaly require some amping -_-

 

Now I get the whole wallet thing.... tongue.gif

 

Before I pull the trigger though can you explain what you mean by the sub bass and mid bass humps though .

 

 


Edited by BassinURface - 11/23/11 at 1:01am
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