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post #136 of 275
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THIS ^^^^.  Nothing to be sneezed at......



Sure! The sound of course... lol. Well at least I can add/remove layers as I go (total of 8 ply!). Meets its given purpose but overall sound suffers.

 

 

@Purrin:
You've been posting a lot of frequency response graphs... may I ask what kind of hard/software you've been using?

Also, what of the concerns of TP breaking up and leaving dusts here and there on the drivers?--or even getting stuck in the felt?

post #137 of 275
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An old version of CLIO running on an ancient PC with a calibrated microphone. The actual measuring apparatus is semi-secret. If you look around hard enough you will find hints or an actual description of it.

 

I couldn't imagine going for more than one 2-ply layer of OEM toilet paper - any thicker than that (even one layer of paper towel), screws up the sound too much.

post #138 of 275

I think if the TP has broken up inside the LCD-3 then you've got bigger problems because your LCD-3's have either time traveled, aged 2 centuries and come back without you realizing it, or you put them on outside in the middle of a hurricane. 

post #139 of 275
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There is a thick layer of felt glued to the driver opening, so TP dust won't be get in. The TP inside should be stable because it's sandwiched between two layers of felt out the outer side of the driver. TP is a lot more stable than people think.

post #140 of 275
props for the thread. I enjoyed the tp mod discussion esp ply and embossed and scented or not. I think you should consider 100% recycled (not sure if p or tp) for a more Natural sound.
post #141 of 275

Now that the sonics are tweaked for the better, how about comfort? This would supposedly cure clamping amongst other issues.

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post #142 of 275
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Now that the sonics are tweaked for the better, how about comfort? This would supposedly cure clamping amongst other issues.

hear muffs.jpg


Haha. They solved the clamping issue, but not the weight. The weight was OK for the first day or two, but it got to be really bothersome over time.

 

post #143 of 275

The No-Neck surgerical procedure will take off here soon.

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Edited by wink - 11/30/11 at 7:37pm
post #144 of 275

Well, seems wading through most of the nonsense in the LCD3 thread has turned up one interesting thing at least. 

 

I just tried this simple mod with the LCD2 R1 I have and I'm not sure the overall sound is for the better. Tonally you seem to get a brighter and punchier presentation but some timbre detail (especially in vocal) is lost in the process, a sign of an over-dampened sound I think. Or perhaps this mod only works with the LCD3...

 

You might want to experiment with thinner damping material. 

post #145 of 275
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post

Well, seems wading through most of the nonsense in the LCD3 thread has turned up one interesting thing at least. 

 

I just tried this simple mod with the LCD2 R1 I have and I'm not sure the overall sound is for the better. Tonally you seem to get a brighter and punchier presentation but some timbre detail (especially in vocal) is lost in the process, a sign of an over-dampened sound I think. Or perhaps this mod only works with the LCD3...

 

You might want to experiment with thinner damping material. 


One-ply can also be used. Try different shapes, smaller circles, etc. I encourage folks to play around with it. This is part of the fun. My selection of TP was actually serious and not intended to be funny, at least not initially. It was the the thinnest porous material I could get my hands on. I actually have measurements showing an pair of LCD2r1 being less rolled off than my LCD3s, so it's probable the 2-ply was overkill on your pair. A 4db swing is a lot.


Edited by purrin - 12/4/11 at 12:24pm
post #146 of 275

Yeah, this is going to be a lot of fun. biggrin.gif

 

Instead of stacking the toiler paper and the black felt, have you tried using just the toiler paper only? For a while, I took off the felt off my R1 and I made some post in the other forum about this configuration but eventually I felt that it loses too much bass punch and tightness. The airiness bonus is welcome though. 

post #147 of 275

Apart from possibly making some dents in the dignity of the prestigious cans, a great thread. The measurements of the different materials seem to indicate that you chose exactly the right material at the first attempt: impressive.

In general: What is going on in the area around 3k? (a good thing with the mod that the dip at this frequency becomes relatively shallower). What kind of resonances are at play here? Would be interesting to know.



Thanks also to several people for a good laugh

My favorites so far:

“Toilet paper mod, highly recommended for Schiit owners”

“Never have high-end and rear-end been combined to such dramatic effect...”

“This thread brings tube rolling to a whole new level”.

“the only worry I have in applying the mod is that if the paper is not applied correctly, it could smear the sound....”


 

post #148 of 275

WOT, are you suggesting this whole thread is a fake.

 

I bet you don't believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny either.

 

You mod-improvement denier, you......

post #149 of 275

The grill felts in the LCD2 are simply a design mistake IMHO.

post #150 of 275
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Originally Posted by chetlanin View Post


In general: What is going on in the area around 3k? (a good thing with the mod that the dip at this frequency becomes relatively shallower). What kind of resonances are at play here? Would be interesting to know.

 

The bump there is minor. Digging very deep and lowering the floor of the waterfall plot down to -40db, the pattern appears to be an effect of the cup/enclosure/baffle.

lcd3 rc.40.jpg
 

 

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