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post #4111 of 4288

I love the metallic look of these. Thanks for all the reviews on these headphones. A good cheap set it seems, especially if you take tolerate the microphonics of the cord.

 

~ Im2bz2p :)

post #4112 of 4288
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Originally Posted by SonnyA85 View Post
 

I wish I knew the microphonics on these were so bad before ordering them, makes them unusable.

 

I take it the white version with the rubber cable has no microphonics in comparison?

 

Can i wrap the cord in insulation tape or sellotape to stop microphonics?

 

Le sigh.  And I was just told that I should stop advertising the the white IEMs and its benefits...

 

Actually, there is one single comparison that has been done of the microphonics between the white 9963 IEMs and the black 9927 IEMs - that comparison wase done by myself because nobody else would do it:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/580769/the-monoprice-new-mp9927-pg-208-mp8320-mep-933-the-7-11-club/3855#post_9879825

 

(tl;dr - the white 9963 IEMs are better or equal to the black 9927 IEMs in every way)

 

I had hoped that my "review" would spur interest in the white IEMs and then cause other comparisons and reviews of the white 9963 IEMs to be made, but that never happened...

 

 

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Originally Posted by Drummerdude View Post
 

wouldn't recommend dipping in rubber

 

He's asking about the rubberized cable that the white 9963 IEMs have, not asking about dipping his fabric cable in rubber.

 

 

 

EDIT: Lolwut, I'm subscribed for daily updates; why the crap wasn't I sent an email about the last 7 posts until now?  The first of those 7 posts was made over 2 days ago, and there's nothing in my spam filters...

 

I'll switch my notification to "immediate" for now, since that seemed to work without issue the last time I tried it.


Edited by Nintendo Maniac - 3/26/14 at 5:35pm
post #4113 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Nintendo Maniac View Post
 

 

Le sigh.  And I was just told that I should stop advertising the the white IEMs and its benefits...

 

Actually, there is one single comparison that has been done of the microphonics between the white 9963 IEMs and the black 9927 IEMs - that comparison wase done by myself because nobody else would do it:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/580769/the-monoprice-new-mp9927-pg-208-mp8320-mep-933-the-7-11-club/3855#post_9879825

 

(tl;dr - the white 9963 IEMs are better or equal to the black 9927 IEMs in every way)

 

I had hoped that my "review" would spur interest in the white IEMs and then cause other comparisons and reviews of the white 9963 IEMs to be made, but that never happened...

 

 

 

He's asking about the rubberized cable that the white 9963 IEMs have, not asking about dipping his fabric cable in rubber.

 

 

 

EDIT: Lolwut, I'm subscribed for daily updates; why the crap wasn't I sent an email about the last 7 posts until now?  The first of those 7 posts was made over 2 days ago, and there's nothing in my spam filters...

 

I'll switch my notification to "immediate" for now, since that seemed to work without issue the last time I tried it.

 

Thanks for your replies, sadly too late for me, but I took a risk with them being only £3.50, I assumed all of the models were the exact same and only the colour was different.

 

Apparently wearing them over ear which I have never done with any IEM will reduce or get rid of the microphonics, that shall be the next thing I try out.

 

I was actually talking about dipping them in rubber, there are 2 products here called plasti dip and rubber dip which basically will coat the cable in a thin layer of plastic or rubber. They are expensive though in comparison to the IEM's. I will try over ear and if that don't work, I cannot find a seller over here in the UK for the over ear guide some helpful person posted a few posts back so I shall just give these away to someone looking for IEM's.

 

I may even try wrapping the cord in black insulation tape or in clear sellotape.

 

I'm not good at DIY otherwise I would of tried re-cabling them, I know for a fact i will end up killing them and would rather not do that.

 

Thanks for your help but the OP should be updated with microphonics issues and that the white model are much better.

post #4114 of 4288
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Originally Posted by SonnyA85 View Post

Thanks for your replies, sadly too late for me, but I took a risk with them being only £3.50, I assumed all of the models were the exact same and only the colour was different.

Apparently wearing them over ear which I have never done with any IEM will reduce or get rid of the microphonics, that shall be the next thing I try out.

I was actually talking about dipping them in rubber, there are 2 products here called plasti dip and rubber dip which basically will coat the cable in a thin layer of plastic or rubber. They are expensive though in comparison to the IEM's. I will try over ear and if that don't work, I cannot find a seller over here in the UK for the over ear guide some helpful person posted a few posts back so I shall just give these away to someone looking for IEM's.

I may even try wrapping the cord in black insulation tape or in clear sellotape.

I'm not good at DIY otherwise I would of tried re-cabling them, I know for a fact i will end up killing them and would rather not do that.

Thanks for your help but the OP should be updated with microphonics issues and that the white model are much better.

Wearing them over ear solves most of rhe microphonics problem. These must be worn over ear because of its design
post #4115 of 4288
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Originally Posted by SonnyA85 View Post
 

 

Thanks for your replies, sadly too late for me, but I took a risk with them being only £3.50, I assumed all of the models were the exact same and only the colour was different.

 

Hmm, it would seem that, in the product descriptions on Monoprice, there is no mention of the fabric cord on the black 9927 IEMs.  However the fabric cord is indeed mentioned in the description of the silver 8320 IEMs

 

If you bought from Monoprice directly you may be able to contact them and let them know that it wasn't clear that there was a difference between the black 9927 IEMs and the white 9963 IEMs other than color.  Their customer support is widely regarded as being great, and I can attest to that myself (I'm actually on my second pair of 9963 IEMs, the first set had weaker bass in the right speaker and they sent me a new pair for free without me even having to send back the old pair).

 

However considering you're using British pounds I would imagine that you didn't buy directly from Monoprice, otherwise I figure your shipping cost would probably be more than the product itself.


Edited by Nintendo Maniac - 3/27/14 at 2:23pm
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EDIT: DANG IT this was supposed to be an edit, not a double-post.  OY VEY. >_<

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post


Wearing them over ear solves most of rhe microphonics problem. These must be worn over ear because of its design


I find that when worn over the ear, the fabric cord of my (no longer used) black 9927 IEMs would actually hurt the upper-frontal cartilidge of my outer ear due to the cord not being smooth.

 

By comparison the rubberized cord of the white 9963 IEMs doesn't hurt at all because, well, it's smooth!

 

(and of course I don't even feel the need to wear my white 9963 IEMs over-the-ear due to the considerably reduced microphonics)

post #4117 of 4288

Just sharing :) goodbye tangles and hello to a little more balance 9927 :) black is a beauty always.

post #4118 of 4288

Anyone else tried the vmoda bliss 3.0 fittings tips on the 8320's?

 

http://v-moda.com/bliss-3-0-fittings/

 

I've been loving these tips on various iems since I got them, and I thought they might do wonders to with the 8320's. They do. Bass is present. Highs are tamed. Huge soundstage and detailed sound is preserved. Pretty friggin impressive for $8 iems I must say.

post #4119 of 4288
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

Anyone else tried the vmoda bliss 3.0 fittings tips on the 8320's?

http://v-moda.com/bliss-3-0-fittings/

I've been loving these tips on various iems since I got them, and I thought they might do wonders to with the 8320's. They do. Bass is present. Highs are tamed. Huge soundstage and detailed sound is preserved. Pretty friggin impressive for $8 iems I must say.

Was going to give them a try, but all out of medium?

How's the sizing. I'm between a small and medium so I usually do medium for the seal. If they run larger, I'll pick up the smalls.
post #4120 of 4288

Uhh, here's something weird I just discovered.  I've been experiencing it for a while now but it's only until now that I can pin-point what exactly is happening.

 

Is it normal to feel bass differently between the left and right ears?  Not the IEM earpieces, but my human ears (reversing the ear pieces doesn't make the effect switch ears).  I don't seem to hear bass differently between the two ears, just feel it differently.  In my left ear it's more centralized and in the ear itself, while the right ear it's more dispersed and almost more in the back of the right side of the forehead.

 

Perhaps it's related to the fact that my ears, particularly the area around my outer ear canals, are somewhat unsymmetrical? (the non-symmetry is to the point that I'll usually use two different kinds of tips in my ears, though I didn't when testing the issue in question)  That would also explain why I didn't notice this left-right ear bass discrepancy when I used my sister's over-the-ear cans...


Edited by Nintendo Maniac - 3/27/14 at 10:09pm
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The sizing is normal. But they are very comfy, so i would recommemd getting the mediums for you (they would provide a good seal but also be comfy). That's my experience with the large clear tips.

I'm actually being somewhat blown away at the moment actually. Do the newer 8320's with rubber coating sound as good?
Edited by waynes world - 3/27/14 at 9:34pm
post #4122 of 4288
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

I'm actually being somewhat blown away at the moment actually. Do the newer 8320's with rubber coating sound as good?

 

They arguably sound "better" because of reduced microphonics. :p  But musically I did not hear any difference between my white 9963 IEMs with a rubber cord and my black 9927 IEMs with a fabric cord (both IEMs have about 2 months of use).

 

 

EDIT: Doing a comparison right now I think my black 9927 IEMs are a bit more "v-shaped" than my white 9963 IEMs - the bass seems a bit stronger and the highs seem to have a bit more sparkle.  However, considering how inexpensive these IEMs are I wouldn't be surprised if this little difference is just a case of variations within the manufacturing.

 

EDIT 2: Yeah, my white 9963 IEMs actually seem to be more neutral-sounding, the midrange in particular seems to come through more clearly.   Perhaps I've used my white 9963 IEMs more frequently and therefore they have been "burned in" more due to said more frequent use?  I say this because, in an un-burned-in state, the bass and treble on the Monoprice IEMs are known to be a bit too much, and will settle down after being burned in.


Edited by Nintendo Maniac - 3/27/14 at 10:06pm
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Hey folks!

 

 

Just want to let you know that the monoprice 9927's are surprisingly a lot like the Paradox Slants in overall sound quality...especially when they are fully tweaked.   I would say they are about 75% there.  This is mainly overall tonality and neutrality and surprisingly soundstaging as well.  None of the other buds I have tried are that close.  Having said that it's hard to go back to in ears after listening to the slants.  Pricey yes but oh my gosh.   They don't sound like sealed cans. Staging is huge, bass is massive when in the recording, detail and resolution like planar and electrostatic loudspeakers, tonlity like the best horns on triodes.    Honestly they are like wearing very very good loudspeakers.   Had to do it.  Spent my half of the tax return on them.  Worth every penny and Luis is awesome.   Look like a very well finished t50rp...sound like something else.....hehehehahaha!   After hearing these I'm bout ready to throw every bud in the trash except for the 9927's.   Just letting those of you wondering bout them. 9927's can be amazing.    Last buds I will ever own, unless monoprice comes up with an enhanced version,  now that would be something.

 

And my favorite color Nintendo is purple, metalic.   I wish they would do some in that color. %-)_,!!!!!!

 

 

Muhaha!

 

Happy Listening,

 

jgwtriode

post #4124 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Nintendo Maniac View Post
 

 

They arguably sound "better" because of reduced microphonics. :p  But musically I did not hear any difference between my white 9963 IEMs with a rubber cord and my black 9927 IEMs with a fabric cord (both IEMs have about 2 months of use).

 

 

EDIT: Doing a comparison right now I think my black 9927 IEMs are a bit more "v-shaped" than my white 9963 IEMs - the bass seems a bit stronger and the highs seem to have a bit more sparkle.  However, considering how inexpensive these IEMs are I wouldn't be surprised if this little difference is just a case of variations within the manufacturing.

 

EDIT 2: Yeah, my white 9963 IEMs actually seem to be more neutral-sounding, the midrange in particular seems to come through more clearly.   Perhaps I've used my white 9963 IEMs more frequently and therefore they have been "burned in" more due to said more frequent use?  I say this because, in an un-burned-in state, the bass and treble on the Monoprice IEMs are known to be a bit too much, and will settle down after being burned in.

 

I heard every single ear bud I tried shift the sound stage to my left for about a month and half.  I tried shims to try to very the depth of insertion to compensate...did slightly but not enough.  Used to drive me nuts and then after not listening for a week it simply went away.  I was doing ear drop and cotton tips and all kinds of things.  My right ear does build up a bit more  wax than my left.

 

But nothing helped and I was freaking out.  Initially I thought it was screwed up doping of one driver vs another on when I first heard it.  Was testing a pair of my tweaked 9927's that were done

for my son.  But it did the same on eveything i tried.  What was weird is I would hold the earbuds equidistant about a foot in front of me and they sounded equally loud on both sides with the

vocals dead centered.  Very weird.    I have lost the upper few k of my hearing.  At 23 i could hear clearly out to 20k.  I might be lucky to get 13 or 14k now.   No biggie.

 

So yeah ear problems suck, really suck.  

 

You could go see an audiologist and have him check for you!

 

Good Luck and,

 

Happy Listening,

 

jgwtriode

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Originally Posted by jgwtriode View Post
 

Hey folks!

 

 

Just want to let you know that the monoprice 9927's are surprisingly a lot like the Paradox Slants in overall sound quality...especially when they are fully tweaked.   I would say they are about 75% there.  This is mainly overall tonality and neutrality and surprisingly soundstaging as well.  None of the other buds I have tried are that close.  Having said that it's hard to go back to in ears after listening to the slants.  Pricey yes but oh my gosh.   They don't sound like sealed cans. Staging is huge, bass is massive when in the recording, detail and resolution like planar and electrostatic loudspeakers, tonlity like the best horns on triodes.    Honestly they are like wearing very very good loudspeakers.   Had to do it.  Spent my half of the tax return on them.  Worth every penny and Luis is awesome.   Look like a very well finished t50rp...sound like something else.....hehehehahaha!   After hearing these I'm bout ready to throw every bud in the trash except for the 9927's.   Just letting those of you wondering bout them. 9927's can be amazing.    Last buds I will ever own, unless monoprice comes up with an enhanced version,  now that would be something.

 

And my favorite color Nintendo is purple, metalic.   I wish they would do some in that color. %-)_,!!!!!!

 

 

Muhaha!

 

Happy Listening,

 

jgwtri

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendo Maniac View Post
 

Uhh, here's something weird I just discovered.  I've been experiencing it for a while now but it's only until now that I can pin-point what exactly is happening.

 

Is it normal to feel bass differently between the left and right ears?  Not the IEM earpieces, but my human ears (reversing the ear pieces doesn't make the effect switch ears).  I don't seem to hear bass differently between the two ears, just feel it differently.  In my left ear it's more centralized and in the ear itself, while the right ear it's more dispersed and almost more in the back of the right side of the forehead.

 

Perhaps it's related to the fact that my ears, particularly the area around my outer ear canals, are somewhat unsymmetrical? (the non-symmetry is to the point that I'll usually use two different kinds of tips in my ears, though I didn't when testing the issue in question)  That would also explain why I didn't notice this left-right ear bass discrepancy when I used my sister's over-the-ear cans...

 

 

Meant to comment on this post!.....oooppppsss!     Sorry!

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