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post #2791 of 4175

Ha!

The fx30 were the first "better" iems I used.

I was in love with the sound. Then I heard better headphones and hated the marshmallows for the incomplete sound and lack of technical ability.

Then I read joker's review of the other type of marshmallows, found myself nodding in agreement, and seeing the low scores they received.

Then I started searching for great cheap headphones.

Then I came back to iems. But anyways.

 

With the mh1c you won't go wrong!!!

 

Yes, that is the right product.

I would have also recommended the monoprice 8320's since they're less than $10, but they are reaaally dependent on fit.

It's a hit or miss, For me it was a miss. I'm actually selling mine on the for sale thread.

 

Don't worry about the tips that come with it.

There's something different about the tips of the mh1c. Easier to get a seal and perfectly comfortable.

post #2792 of 4175
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

As mentioned earlier. There is a new item that you guys should pay attention to. It has a much more refined sound over the MP8320. Made by Sony. MH1C. If you guys look on the threads you will see many a review based on them. Yes it is a new IEM that was introduced by ClieOS a headfi vet whom I have huge respect for. The Iems can be bought on Amazon or Ebay..For headphones I would look into JVCs HA-S500.Yes they are on ear headphones but the sound is brilliant. It does cost around $75 shipped out of Japan as they are imports only but completely worth tracking down just for their sound quality alone. There are many on the threads that offer much value for the money.. These MP8320 is just one of them. Getting these 2 items will set you back around $100 but will gain about $300-$400 in SQ easily.

 

 

Dont talk about any other iem if not cause you are comparing them,  even if you discovered and created this thread, there are some guys here that dont care about any other great geam and discovery around here.

 

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people are funny here... anyway.

post #2793 of 4175
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Originally Posted by Lateness View Post

I'm not trying to put out an agenda or call anyone anything; but it is just materialism...

To put it bluntly 'don't buy stuff when you have had a blow to your self esteem to make yourself feel better.'

 

 

 

On the other hand, any mods to make these more comfortable? They hurt my ears after a while...

The cable is also prone to tangles too!

 

 


Yes, use Meelecs double flanges.  that way the 8320 wont touch your ears.

post #2794 of 4175

Just a couple of updates regarding my experiences with the 8320s, in case anyone is interested.  Oh, heck, who am I kidding?  This is the internet.  You're ALL interested in what I have to say, right?  beyersmile.png

 

Anyway, EventVista posted about some tips he found on Amazon called "Squish Tips."  I followed his lead and bought a few pairs before he came back with a review, but I feel like my experience with them mirrored what EventVista posted.  They are, basically, subpar.  Its very tricky to get them in properly, as you're fighting with the end and its tendency to seal up, as much as you're fighting to get a proper seal in your ear.  They're not useless... if you put enough time and effort into them, you can get a good seal, but once you've achieved that, I just didn't find them very comfortable.  There are some mods recommended in the thread, cutting off the ends, but I didn't try that.

 

I also picked up some of these several weeks ago, based on rikardoliepa's recommendation/find, but they didn't arrive until yesterday.  The fit is definitely superior to the Squish Tips and I feel like they are also an improvement over the tips that come with the 8320s.  I've shied away from multi-flange tips with my previous IEMs, like my old Shures (E2Cs?) and the two pairs of NuForce NE-700s I've had, because I didn't like the fit (I just found them a little awkward), but trying these bi-flange tips with the 8320s, I find that they are pretty comfortable.

 

The distance it puts between the driver and your ear drum certainly affects the sound.  The highs seem a little bit higher and the soundstage is wider, but I think, to a slight detriment.  It sounds like there is almost too much "air" to them now, so music that was mixed with a lot of treble and ambience seems a little more fatiguing now.  For example, I'm listening to a Songza station called "Ultimate Party Sing-alongs" and there are a number of 80s and 90s metal songs that are a little too bright, but I think a lot of that has to do with the mastering preferences of the time.  With more modern, bass heavy music, these sound pretty great.  Jay-Z just came on and sounds pretty incredible, so it might be a case of the combination of 8320s and bi-flange tips just being too revealing.

 

Again, the fit is really nice.  I may have to revise the multi-flange tips with my NuForce and Thinksound IEMs, because these are a huge improvement over the 8320's default tips.  Highly recommended!

post #2795 of 4175
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Originally Posted by robbneu View Post

The distance it puts between the driver and your ear drum certainly affects the sound.  The highs seem a little bit higher and the soundstage is wider, but I think, to a slight detriment.  It sounds like there is almost too much "air" to them now, so music that was mixed with a lot of treble and ambience seems a little more fatiguing now.  For example, I'm listening to a Songza station called "Ultimate Party Sing-alongs" and there are a number of 80s and 90s metal songs that are a little too bright, but I think a lot of that has to do with the mastering preferences of the time.  With more modern, bass heavy music, these sound pretty great.  Jay-Z just came on and sounds pretty incredible, so it might be a case of the combination of 8320s and bi-flange tips just being too revealing.Testing

 

I had the same exact issue with my bi-flange tips.  So I ended up cutting mine up a little to make them shorter.  I also pulled them over the tip of the 8320, so that the distance is much shorter and closer to the stock tips (I had to use tweezers for this, it was kinda hard to do).

 

Here is a before and after of the bi-flange, the parts I shortened and then them installed on the 8320.  I can get better pictures of the tips if needed, so you can see the driver is at stock lengh from the tip.

 

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post #2796 of 4175
hello all, im new here and I had to make a comment and also an observation..

1st). I am a new and proud owner of the monoprice 8320 and im planning on buying more as gifts and spares.
I dont have expensive or very high quality headphones, earphones or earbuds but as a former car audio enthusiast in sound quality, I think I know a lil bit about what does and does not sound good... just a bit of history I ran Rainbow Profi Vanadium 6.5" with 1" tweets in custom fiberglass kick panels which were angled for imaging and soundstage.. my sub was a single 12" IDMAX by Image Dynamics that was IB mounted,, powrred by TRU TECHNOLOGY amps and a high output Pioneer head unit... enough of that , that was years ago RIP... because of this hobby I learned to critically listen to music and I still have test cd's that I spent hours listening to fine tuning my audio system..
I currently have NHT 1.3a's as my main source at home ran by a Yammy rcvr and my PS3..
my test cd's include CHESKY LABS CRITICAL LISTENING AND DEMONSTRATION disc and 2001 OFFICIAL IASCA SOUND QUALITY TEST DISC.

2nd). in all these reviews by new owners I never see anyone mention the music or the source ...

but I will start.. my initial test with the 8320's was comparing them to my cheap 20dollar iLuv iem using various low quality music downloads on my first gen samsung galaxy S using the regular music player.. the 8320's were superior even without a burn-in period..
I then compared them to my Senn hd201's (yes im on a budget) but played the above 2 discs on my home system and the 8320's were truly a clear winner.. more detailed and accurate,,, bass was enjoyable and not over powering.. i was grinning from ear to ear..

I have recently installed PowerAmp on my phone and once again im enjoyong my recently downloaded test discs.. I did the tape mod and yes it increased the bass but im considering removing it... the bass was fine before... I will be looking for new tips..

what sources are u guys using.. anyone using amps or DAC's what combinations... im currently considering purchasing the Fiio e6 or e11 for my phone,, but if I get a ipod nano then I might go for the e7 for the DAC..
post #2797 of 4175

I'm just using an old ipod classic. I did the tape mod too. Sounds like a totally different earphone. I now know what soundstage is. It's that thing that shrinks when you do the tape mod on 8320's.

post #2798 of 4175
I got a galaxy s3 phone, and really prefer the sound out of my old 30gb zune mp3 with fiio e5 . Stand alone mp3 player > Phone ,but that is just my opinion. With the phone, I have to play with the Eq settings alot and try to find a program app that works best with music. With my old zune, is pretty much set and forget. =)
post #2799 of 4175
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Originally Posted by jaejw1 View Post

hello all, im new here and I had to make a comment and also an observation..
1st). I am a new and proud owner of the monoprice 8320 and im planning on buying more as gifts and spares.
I dont have expensive or very high quality headphones, earphones or earbuds but as a former car audio enthusiast in sound quality, I think I know a lil bit about what does and does not sound good... just a bit of history I ran Rainbow Profi Vanadium 6.5" with 1" tweets in custom fiberglass kick panels which were angled for imaging and soundstage.. my sub was a single 12" IDMAX by Image Dynamics that was IB mounted,, powrred by TRU TECHNOLOGY amps and a high output Pioneer head unit... enough of that , that was years ago RIP... because of this hobby I learned to critically listen to music and I still have test cd's that I spent hours listening to fine tuning my audio system..
I currently have NHT 1.3a's as my main source at home ran by a Yammy rcvr and my PS3..
my test cd's include CHESKY LABS CRITICAL LISTENING AND DEMONSTRATION disc and 2001 OFFICIAL IASCA SOUND QUALITY TEST DISC.
2nd). in all these reviews by new owners I never see anyone mention the music or the source ...
but I will start.. my initial test with the 8320's was comparing them to my cheap 20dollar iLuv iem using various low quality music downloads on my first gen samsung galaxy S using the regular music player.. the 8320's were superior even without a burn-in period..
I then compared them to my Senn hd201's (yes im on a budget) but played the above 2 discs on my home system and the 8320's were truly a clear winner.. more detailed and accurate,,, bass was enjoyable and not over powering.. i was grinning from ear to ear..
I have recently installed PowerAmp on my phone and once again im enjoyong my recently downloaded test discs.. I did the tape mod and yes it increased the bass but im considering removing it... the bass was fine before... I will be looking for new tips..
what sources are u guys using.. anyone using amps or DAC's what combinations... im currently considering purchasing the Fiio e6 or e11 for my phone,, but if I get a ipod nano then I might go for the e7 for the DAC..

Glad you like them. I use my iPhone 4 with the Denon EQ app. If your using an apple product you cannot use an external DAC except if you jailbreak it and use the camera kit (I think you may be able to use it on the iPad with the camera kit but am not sure). I don't know if android lets you plug in an external DAC.
post #2800 of 4175
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Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin View Post

 

I had the same exact issue with my bi-flange tips.  So I ended up cutting mine up a little to make them shorter.  I also pulled them over the tip of the 8320, so that the distance is much shorter and closer to the stock tips (I had to use tweezers for this, it was kinda hard to do).

 

Here is a before and after of the bi-flange, the parts I shortened and then them installed on the 8320.  I can get better pictures of the tips if needed, so you can see the driver is at stock lengh from the tip.

 

1000

 

 

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Thanks, Bloody Penguin.  I saw your post earlier, but forgot about it when I posted my little update.  I might try this fairly soon, especially since I got so many bi-flange tips from that Chinese site.  If I'm not crazy about the result, I can always just swap them out with a new pair.  :)

post #2801 of 4175
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Originally Posted by robbneu View Post

 


Thanks, Bloody Penguin.  I saw your post earlier, but forgot about it when I posted my little update.  I might try this fairly soon, especially since I got so many bi-flange tips from that Chinese site.  If I'm not crazy about the result, I can always just swap them out with a new pair.  :)

 

No problem.  Yeah, I had a few sets of the MEElectronic tips to play with, so I was not worried about messing up a pair.  But it worked great for me on my first try.

 

Just remember to cut both the bottom flange and underneath the bottom flange where it goes over the tip. 

 

Also, I can make a quick video of how I pulled it over the base with tweezers if requested.

 

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post #2802 of 4175
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Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin View Post

 

No problem.  Yeah, I had a few sets of the MEElectronic tips to play with, so I was not worried about messing up a pair.  But it worked great for me on my first try.

 

Just remember to cut both the bottom flange and underneath the bottom flange where it goes over the tip. 

 

Also, I can make a quick video of how I pulled it over the base with tweezers if requested.

 

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Thanks, BP!  I just tried cutting my bi-flange tips back, under less than ideal circumstances (sitting at my desk with a pair of old scissors), and the results were great!  They don't look very good, given that I can't cut in a straight line for some reason, but the sound does seem improved.  The only downside I can see of using this method is that when you cut the internal, small piece that slides over the earphone post, you can cut away the notches that let it "lock" into place.  I'm not getting any movement (yet), so it's a fairly minor issue.  I can just see how this might put some people off who are worried about getting a loose tip.

 

Great tweak, Bloody Penguin!  Thanks again for sharing it!

post #2803 of 4175
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Originally Posted by robbneu View Post


Thanks, BP!  I just tried cutting my bi-flange tips back, under less than ideal circumstances (sitting at my desk with a pair of old scissors), and the results were great!  They don't look very good, given that I can't cut in a straight line for some reason, but the sound does seem improved.  The only downside I can see of using this method is that when you cut the internal, small piece that slides over the earphone post, you can cut away the notches that let it "lock" into place.  I'm not getting any movement (yet), so it's a fairly minor issue.  I can just see how this might put some people off who are worried about getting a loose tip.

 

Great tweak, Bloody Penguin!  Thanks again for sharing it!

 

Awesome, glad it worked for you!  smile.gif

 

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post #2804 of 4175

Surprised by these, slight harshness though will probably go away with burn in, does anyone know if there is a frequency graph of these floating around somewhere? id think there would be with all the attention they're getting but I cant find it?

Not sure actually the mids sound pretty recessed? still not burnt in though


Edited by TunneLVisioN42 - 11/7/12 at 10:04pm
post #2805 of 4175
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Originally Posted by TunneLVisioN42 View Post

Surprised by these, slight harshness though will probably go away with burn in, does anyone know if there is a frequency graph of these floating around somewhere? id think there would be with all the attention they're getting but I cant find it?

Not sure actually the mids sound pretty recessed? still not burnt in though

Would love to see a FR graph for these. I doubt one is available. I did find some harshness that has smoothed out somewhat. Still some tracks have a slight pierce to my ears. I would have to turn the volume down to listen comfortably.

There has been a couple occasions where I thought someone was knocking on my door at home while listening with these. Realized it was the wide sound stage and the song I was listening too. Nice..

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