oh and did i mention liamstrain is gagging over it.....he just cant afford it.
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oh and did i mention liamstrain is gagging over it.....he just cant afford it.
Why do you need 3-5 watts into 50 ohms?
The OP mentioned a HE-500 not a HE-6
The only amps I know of that meet the criteria are the Dynahi and B22, which are both DIY. Not sure if parts for the Dynahi are still available though, someone else would have to confirm.
The only other way to go would be an integrated amp for speakers - there are plenty of options in the <$500 range, like the Audioengine N22 and Virtue Audio One.2/Two.2 for example. (Haven't heard them, just pointing them out.)
:D Mortgage and baby bills come first. I'm gagging over it because I frankly didn't expect that high an output from a combo dac/amp - much less at that price point.

Heya,
Sold the Lyr off because I'm done with Tubes. I like the sound, but it's not different enough to me and I don't like that tubes sound different from tube to tube (you can mix/match and have channels not sounding right if you screw up, etc). Also, when one tube goes out before another, it's a pain, and you might as well replace both tubes at the same time. I had other tube amps as well. I'm just not into rolling tubes. I simply liked the tube look, tube sound was nice enough but I think I prefer the solid state sound. So looking to go more solid state right now. I'm currently just using an Asgard I picked up to hold me over while I figure it out after having sold the Lyr. So looking at this NFB10SE for $500, that's far and it's a DAC/AMP that outputs a ton of power to low impedance headphones, might fit the bill. I don't mind it being a little ugly, at the cost compared to spending twice as much for a nicer "look." I would prefer it it look nice (I love schiit's design for example). But they unfortunately didn't make a more powerful asgard, which I hope they do.
Very best,
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the response. The Bifrost+Lyr was on my short-list, but in the end I prefer solid state sound as well.
And I'm just being dramatic about the looks of the Audio-GD. It's a bit generic looking (imho), but it seems to be a great value in terms of price/performance ratio (from the reviews). I actually just emailed Sai with some questions/requests and will probably put in my order by the end of the week. Anyway, check out the NFB-10 thread in the Source forum, and you'll see a few (very favorable) comparisons to the Lyr, so you can get a sense of what you're getting into. Either way, good luck with your search.
new board version of the dynahi in balanced configuration is now available.
And so are the parts.
But this is a great deal on a sweet sounding amp, all you need to do
is add a preamp, or some other kind of volume control, and a headphone
connector.
ive seen reccomended 6 - 8 watts in 50ohms at places.
But everone says more than that will benefit it more.
According to InnerFidelity datasheets:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads
HE-500 is 47 ohms, 0.310 V rms or 2.04 mW to reach 90 dB SPL (@ 1 kHz).
HE-6 is 53 ohms, 1.018 V rms or 19.69 mW to reach 90 dB SPL (@ 1 kHz).
So...depend on how loud you want to listen obviously. Assuming 110 dB, you need 10.18 V rms or 1.959 W into 53 ohms with the HE-6, which is rather severe. 3-5W for HE-6, sure. That's 3.1 V rms or 204 mW with the HE-500, manageable on more amps. I really don't see why you would need 3-5W here...?
Now there's no guarantee that all amps will meet their rated spec, or will not be borderline oscillating or highly distorted at some of the very high output levels listed. But I think that's a start.

According to InnerFidelity datasheets:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads
HE-500 is 47 ohms, 0.310 V rms or 2.04 mW to reach 90 dB SPL (@ 1 kHz).
HE-6 is 53 ohms, 1.018 V rms or 19.69 mW to reach 90 dB SPL (@ 1 kHz).
So...depend on how loud you want to listen obviously. Assuming 110 dB, you need 10.18 V rms or 1.959 W into 53 ohms with the HE-6, which is rather severe. 3-5W for HE-6, sure. That's 3.1 V rms or 204 mW with the HE-500, manageable on more amps. I really don't see why you would need 3-5W here...?
Now there's no guarantee that all amps will meet their rated spec, or will not be borderline oscillating or highly distorted at some of the very high output levels listed. But I think that's a start.
its not about how loud they are able to drive the headphones though...

So...depend on how loud you want to listen obviously. Assuming 110 dB, you need 10.18 V rms or 1.959 W into 53 ohms with the HE-6, which is rather severe. 3-5W for HE-6, sure. That's 3.1 V rms or 204 mW with the HE-500, manageable on more amps. I really don't see why you would need 3-5W here...?
There's no practical reason I can see why one needs 3 to 5 watts for the HE-500. Fang specifically recommends against using his HE Adapter box with them. However, if the OP wants that much power for his HE-500s, that's certainly his prerogative.
The V200 doesn't quite get there, but it's closer than many.
I think it is. Firstly you need to be able to output the necessary power. Secondly the performance at that power level must be good in some sense, having the characteristics that you think makes the headphones sound good.
I agree that it's his prerogative, but I think it's worth repeating that 3-5W is unnecessary, such that he doesn't needlessly restrict his search to only amplifiers that can supply that much power into roughly 50 ohms. There may be better or cheaper alternatives that cannot reach 3-5W but may make him happy with his HE-500s.
lol, ur second point is what i was saying....