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post #556 of 596

Yes, he's a top bloke. 

 

I've not heard the Merlins - but very interested interested in UMs sister company, Rooth, who have also released a 4 BA + 1 Dynamic hybrid, the LSX5. That though, may be a little too neutral for your tastes. They will also however be releasing a x 3 hybrid universal for around only $250. 

 

Good luck with you choice - I feel your indecision! There are so many choices, so it's good to have narrowed it down to 2.

post #557 of 596
I received the Aud-8X yesterday.

Blimey they're good.

I'll post proper impressions / a review after a few weeks of listening, but right from the onset it's clear that they're a technical step up (from the Aud-5X).
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Originally Posted by Nulliverse View Post

I received the Aud-8X yesterday.

Blimey they're good.

I'll post proper impressions / a review after a few weeks of listening, but right from the onset it's clear that they're a technical step up (from the Aud-5X).

 

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post #559 of 596
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I received the Aud-8X yesterday.

Blimey they're good.

I'll post proper impressions / a review after a few weeks of listening, but right from the onset it's clear that they're a technical step up (from the Aud-5X).

 

Moving from the 5X, which is very good in its own right, the 8X is excellent!  I love the dynamics!

post #560 of 596
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Moving from the 5X, which is very good in its own right, the 8X is excellent!  I love the dynamics!

 

That might be one of the most impressive aspects of the 8X.  It has a smooth signature.. but it's not sleep or excessively laid back.. the sound is very vibrant and, well, dynamic.  Also.. the bass was phenomenal.  I'm not what one would consider a 'basshead,' in the traditional/stereotypical sense.. but I do love a (linear) bass response that's capable of being deep, impactful, nimble, and powerful.. when the music demands it.  The 8X delivered that exceedingly well.  From what I remember, there is a slight midbass boost to it.. but it's tastefully done and it doesn't mask the wonderful (sub-bass) extension in any way.


Edited by FlySweep - 7/3/13 at 11:21am
post #561 of 596

I still haven't placed my order on the 8X, waiting for Joe's review stil, hurry up Joe!   :P

 

I have emailed mitch several times trying to get a clearer picture of the 6X and 8X, he mentioned 8X is more mid centric than the 6X but I still need to confirm whether it wont be too bass emphasised, or like the Miracle placing bass too forward catching the attention away from the mid range. Most of all, I need to find out how flat the sound is as I really dislike the U sound of miracles, while I admit technically it delivers alot of details. Currently I'm still using my old UM Mage and eager to upgrade to something with slightly fuller sound with nice midrange tone.

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I still haven't placed my order on the 8X, waiting for Joe's review stil, hurry up Joe!   :P

 

I have emailed mitch several times trying to get a clearer picture of the 6X and 8X, he mentioned 8X is more mid centric than the 6X but I still need to confirm whether it wont be too bass emphasised, or like the Miracle placing bass too forward catching the attention away from the mid range. Most of all, I need to find out how flat the sound is as I really dislike the U sound of miracles, while I admit technically it delivers alot of details. Currently I'm still using my old UM Mage and eager to upgrade to something with slightly fuller sound with nice midrange tone.

 

Have you thought about the 7X?  The 8X, which is in my ears right now, is probably more similar to the Miracle (from my understanding of it via demo, others input, and hearing the PP6) than the 7X, which should be more mid-forward.  I am not sure it will help, but if you haven't yet seen a small bit from my upcoming review of the 8X, check it out here.  You can also see how I classify the CIEMs I have heard here.  Since my 8X review is a ways away, feel free to ask me questions (and if you have questions about other CIEMs, this is a great thread to do so).

post #563 of 596
Wow thanks for the heads up! Ya I have been reading a lot of your ciem reviews, in fact if your pp6 review came up a couple months earlier I wouldn't have bought the Miracle, and your review of pp6 definately is how i felt about the miracle.

It's good to know 8x are more similar to Miracle than 7x, which I didnt think of beacuse the 7x' setup seems to emphasis on bass which I'm trying to avoid. I'm looking for a phones that has forward and great midrange tone, snappy and non over quantity bass together with refined treble, hence the 6x came to my mind but Mitch is trying to convince me to go with 8x. While I have only owned UM's ciem, I have listened ACS T1 and I kinda like the sound signature, can you do a quick comparison with them and the 5x/7x/8x? The reason why I'm not getting the T1 beacuse of its price and I don't fond silicon shells... Also, how close are the 8x and the Miracle? Do 8x have the distant, recessed midrange (yet peaks at upper midrange) like miracle?

I'm trying to stick the topic more related to the dream earz products as here's it's appreciation thread. smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by redaxis - 7/26/13 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by redaxis View Post

Do 8x have the distant, recessed midrange (yet peaks at upper midrange) like miracle?

 

I've owned both the Miracle & 8X.. regarding your question: No, the 8X does not have a recessed midrange and/or  peaky upper mids/lower treble.  It's got a full, deep, powerful bass response.. smooth, dynamic, slightly forwards mids.. and a smooth, clean, well balanced treble response.  The 8X' bass isn't as forward/boosted as it is on the 7X.. it's more neutral.. but better controlled, more linear, faster, and more technically capable, in comparison.  The 8X's midrange isn't as forward as it was on the 7X, either.. and the 8X has, comparatively, more (as well as better quality) treble than the 7X.

 

Some have asked me if the 8X is treble is open, airy, and sparkly.  It's open.. but not particularly sparkly or "brilliant."  Having owned the 5X, 6X, 7X, and 8X, I've come to believe that characteristic just isn't something that's part of the DreamEarz "house sound" (and understandably so, since Mitch's IEMs are targeted at the "pro audio" market, where smoother slightly warmer/accurate signatures are needed to accommodate long term listening/lack of fatigue).  That being said.. the 8X's treble presence pairs nicely with the midrange and I never found it lacking in that the signature grew overly warm or muffled after I listened with it for long periods of time.


Edited by FlySweep - 7/26/13 at 3:08pm
post #565 of 596
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Wow thanks for the heads up! Ya I have been reading a lot of your ciem reviews, in fact if your pp6 review came up a couple months earlier I wouldn't have bought the Miracle, and your review of pp6 definately is how i felt about the miracle.

It's good to know 8x are more similar to Miracle than 7x, which I didnt think of beacuse the 7x' setup seems to emphasis on bass which I'm trying to avoid. I'm looking for a phones that has forward and great midrange tone, snappy and non over quantity bass together with refined treble, hence the 6x came to my mind but Mitch is trying to convince me to go with 8x. While I have only owned UM's ciem, I have listened ACS T1 and I kinda like the sound signature, can you do a quick comparison with them and the 5x/7x/8x? The reason why I'm not getting the T1 beacuse of its price and I don't fond silicon shells... Also, how close are the 8x and the Miracle? Do 8x have the distant, recessed midrange (yet peaks at upper midrange) like miracle?

I'm trying to stick the topic more related to the dream earz products as here's it's appreciation thread. smily_headphones1.gif

 

8X vs T1 here.  Please note that the real thing (T1) may be different than the demo you heard.  They are closer than I thought they would be, but are still quite different.

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I've owned both the Miracle & 8X.. regarding your question: No, the 8X does not have a recessed midrange and/or  peaky upper mids/lower treble.  It's got a full, deep, powerful bass response.. smooth, dynamic, slightly forwards mids.. and a smooth, clean, well balanced treble response.  The 8X' bass isn't as forward/boosted as it is on the 7X.. it's more neutral.. but better controlled, more linear, faster, and more technically capable, in comparison.  The 8X's midrange isn't as forward as it was on the 7X, either.. and the 8X has, comparatively, more (as well as better quality) treble than the 7X.

Some have asked me if the 8X is treble is open, airy, and sparkly.  It's open.. but not particularly sparkly or "brilliant."  Having owned the 5X, 6X, 7X, and 8X, I've come to believe that characteristic just isn't something that's part of the DreamEarz "house sound" (and understandably so, since Mitch's IEMs are targeted at the "pro audio" market, where smoother slightly warmer/accurate signatures are needed to accommodate long term listening/lack of fatigue).  That being said.. the 8X's treble presence pairs nicely with the midrange and I never found it lacking in that the signature grew overly warm or muffled after I listened with it for long periods of time.

What Flysweep said. Seriously. Even if I'm considering putting him to ignore for wallet reasons.. (lol)

I've not heard the Miracle, but hear the Aud-8X as encapsulating all the hedonism of a fun signature (bombastic bass capability, subtly forward warmed-up mids, smooth and well extended treble) with all the benefits of a well balanced neutral / natural approach.

It's exciting and laid back simultaneously... that is, it entices you to listen, but never elbows you when your mind is astray.

I'm aware that I'm in danger of sounding like a dynamics fanatic of late, but regardless, will go ahead to state the following - the Aud-8X out punches the 1plus2, and is just as dynamic. It's equally cohesive, and shares similar coherence between drivers. To my ears, naturally... YMMV.
post #567 of 596

Hi All!

 

I ended up pulling the trigger on the Aud-5Xes, and so far I'm not complaining! I only received them yesterday, so they're still being burnt in, but in terms of fit, build quality and (though it's cheating, initial sound quality) I'm really quite happy with it. 

 

As I've listened to them however, a line from someone's impressions seemed to come to mind - a good source track and source for that matter does go a long way with the 5Xes - it can make even some 320kbps MP3s sound flat, but flacs sound amazing. I'm currently using it with a Sony Walkman F series as my DAP. Does anyone have any recs for an amp/DAC / DAP to recommend with these?

 

Thanks!

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Hi All!

 

I ended up pulling the trigger on the Aud-5Xes, and so far I'm not complaining! I only received them yesterday, so they're still being burnt in, but in terms of fit, build quality and (though it's cheating, initial sound quality) I'm really quite happy with it. 

 

As I've listened to them however, a line from someone's impressions seemed to come to mind - a good source track and source for that matter does go a long way with the 5Xes - it can make even some 320kbps MP3s sound flat, but flacs sound amazing. I'm currently using it with a Sony Walkman F series as my DAP. Does anyone have any recs for an amp/DAC / DAP to recommend with these?

 

Thanks!

 

Congrats on your purchase! Glad you're happy with the AUD-5X. Average_Joe has made some great source / synergy comparisons in his AUD-5X review. 

 

Speaking from personal preference / experience, I enjoyed the AUD-5X with neutral to brighter sources. I found the iMod + TTVJ Slim muddied things up a bit, whilst the 2Stepdance + iMod worked very well. The Rocco BA was a very good source - really brought out the transparency and dynamics. Very cheap for the performance, too! I've never heard it's upgrade, the Studio-V, but people speak very highly of it, particularly when paired with a warmer / thicker sig. Definitely one to consider. 

 

It's hard not to recommend a 5.5g DIYmod, which would a) be a descent upgrade in terms of SQ b) give you up to 240gb and c) allow you to gradually upgrade and hear different sigs (by trying different amps). Others might quite rightly recommend highly regarded all in one daps, such as the Studio-V, or the pioneering Tera Player. It can be overwhelming with so many options!

 

Ultimately, it depends on how much you're willing to spend. I find that the AUD-8X (I imagine it will be similar with the AUD-5X) works well with budget daps, such as the Clip Zip, but scales up very well with high end sources. It sounds simply phenomenal with the HDP-R10, which takes the soundstage, refinement and resolution to a whole new level. I'm not sure I'd recommend jumping straight to the top, though. It might be more interesting to do things gradually.

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

I've owned both the Miracle & 8X.. regarding your question: No, the 8X does not have a recessed midrange and/or  peaky upper mids/lower treble.  It's got a full, deep, powerful bass response.. smooth, dynamic, slightly forwards mids.. and a smooth, clean, well balanced treble response.  The 8X' bass isn't as forward/boosted as it is on the 7X.. it's more neutral.. but better controlled, more linear, faster, and more technically capable, in comparison.  The 8X's midrange isn't as forward as it was on the 7X, either.. and the 8X has, comparatively, more (as well as better quality) treble than the 7X.

 

Some have asked me if the 8X is treble is open, airy, and sparkly.  It's open.. but not particularly sparkly or "brilliant."  Having owned the 5X, 6X, 7X, and 8X, I've come to believe that characteristic just isn't something that's part of the DreamEarz "house sound" (and understandably so, since Mitch's IEMs are targeted at the "pro audio" market, where smoother slightly warmer/accurate signatures are needed to accommodate long term listening/lack of fatigue).  That being said.. the 8X's treble presence pairs nicely with the midrange and I never found it lacking in that the signature grew overly warm or muffled after I listened with it for long periods of time.


So the 8X's midrange isn't as forward, bass also not as boosted as the 7X so the presentation is more neutral while having great dynamics am I right? I do prefer the none boosted bass but I hope 8X midrange isn't too distant. I have ordered the 8X so I hope I made the right decision. Thanks flysweep for the info!

 

 

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8X vs T1 here.  Please note that the real thing (T1) may be different than the demo you heard.  They are closer than I thought they would be, but are still quite different.

 

Thanks Joe for the interesting read, I guess if 8X somehow falls under the same camp with the T1 sound wise, I will love how they sound. I love T1 although slight bass bossted is noticable, but the forward, detailed midrange pairs nicely with the bass. Together with slightly warm treble, the vocals are fantastic and super realistic. That's the kind of sound I'm looking for, if the 8X have ths similar sound sig I'd be very happy!

 

I'm sending out the impressions today, Mitch is a friendly guy I hope the sound of 8X delivers. I want to end my CIEM search journey which has been bumpy road.


Edited by redaxis - 8/2/13 at 2:08am
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So the 8X's midrange isn't as forward, bass also not as boosted as the 7X so the presentation is more neutral while having great dynamics am I right? I do prefer the none boosted bass but I hope 8X midrange isn't too distant. I have ordered the 8X so I hope I made the right decision. Thanks flysweep for the info!

 

 

 

Thanks Joe for the interesting read, I guess if 8X somehow falls under the same camp with the T1 sound wise, I will love how they sound. I love T1 although slight bass bossted is noticable, but the forward, detailed midrange pairs nicely with the bass. Together with slightly warm treble, the vocals are fantastic and super realistic. That's the kind of sound I'm looking for, if the 8X have ths similar sound sig I'd be very happy!

 

I'm sending out the impressions today, Mitch is a friendly guy I hope the sound of 8X delivers. I want to end my CIEM search journey which has been bumpy road.

 

Glad you made a decision and look forward to your impressions. I find the 8X's midrange not at all distant - slightly forward actually - being vibrant, rich and subtly thickened up. The bass and mids are the meat of the sound.    

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