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Headroom say you need to use a balanced source in order to hear headphones balanced with a balanced system, but they might have a vested interest in saying that in order to sell their own 'balanced dacs'

 

I've seldom seen a DAC described as 'balanced'....

 

Do you need a balanced DAC in order to properly hear the balanced signal from your balanced amp and balanced headphones?

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Some amps have a phase splitter to balance an unbalanced signal but most don't.

Therefore with most balanced amps you need a balanced source/dac to get a balanced output to your phones.

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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

Some amps have a phase splitter to balance an unbalanced signal but most don't.

Therefore with most balanced amps you need a balanced source/dac to get a balanced output to your phones.



thanks

 

could the Benchmark DAC1 provide a balanced output?

 

Do most DAC's have the balanced output feature anyway?

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thanks

 

could the Benchmark DAC1 provide a balanced output?

 

Do most DAC's have the balanced output feature anyway?


Yes the DAC1 has balanced outputs.

Many DAC's are not balanced. If you look at the back and the DAC has 2 3pin XLR outputs then its pretty safe to say that it is balanced.

 

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Headroom say you need to use a balanced source in order to hear headphones balanced with a balanced system, but they might have a vested interest in saying that in order to sell their own 'balanced dacs'

 

I've seldom seen a DAC described as 'balanced'....

 

Do you need a balanced DAC in order to properly hear the balanced signal from your balanced amp and balanced headphones?


You don't "need" a balanced DAC to go with a balanced amp driving balanced headphones - as already pointed out, a balanced amp with phase inverters will essentially achieve the same thing to drive balanced headphones.

 

To expand on the post right above mine (#4), XLR output jacks on a DAC does mean it has balanced output, but that also doesn't mean it's necessarily properly balanced, because there's definitely a huge difference between phase inverters and dual-differential DACs, and some DACs that have XLR output actually use phase inverters instead of using a dual-differential DAC configuration, which is ideal to derive a fully-balanced signal and hence better sound quality.

 

In short, the best way to form a balanced system is to use a source component with a dual-differential DAC configuration and balanced analog XLR output (the two aren't mutually exclusive, as there are actually lots of source components that have dual-differential DACs but aren't balanced), driving a balanced amp ("dual mono" is the term you want to look for on a proper balanced amp) through standard 3-pin XLR interconnects. And of course most headphones will need to be re-cabled for balanced drive.

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