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post #466 of 1126
Well my friends, my frustration continues. Was supposed to receive a call from the engineer on Sat to no avail. It was a holiday weekend understandibly though. I see someone else has figured out that this is not really amping.......rather it appears they may have set the gain far to low to address some of the problems. Ironically, after hooking up some SE530's, there was considerable hiss present. This doesn't bother me so much with music playing , however it may still irritate some. Keep in mind these are notoriously hiss prone IEM due to their sensitivity. They do sound pretty darn good with the contour adjustments since they do need the low end emphasis and seem to improve considerably more with EQu or Eqalizer (app) customized adjustments to the top end. They, of course, are easily driven by the ZO2 but this is certainly not the case with more power hungry phones (HD580, OK1....forget it!). And this is where the controversy will ensue as it by no means is a versatile device in this form; it is a nice low end enhancer for fairly easily driven phones that, unfortunately to my ears, also colors the rest of the sound spectrum. I notice a significant warming of the sound and loss of treble with ES7 vs. HO of Touch or Ipad. This may help some phones........while impairing others.
Ultimately, they will have to respond to our, admittedly, pain in the arse audiophile nitpicking........but would you expect any different from our crowd? Yes, our constant quest for portable audio nirvana on the cheap can occasionally be deeply rewarding. More often it is an experimentation process filled with the constant FOTM that we chalk up to the learning process..........frustrating but fun. Make me a believer Digizoid! I think your on to something.
post #467 of 1126

I am in agreement with JamesMcProgger, two of my ZO2 (not returning them) sounds amazing with the Clip+, while it is too loud with the line-out of my Ipod.

 

Also after some fiddling with the EQ, the no-eq rockboxed Clip+ is best when having any sort of amp on the other side, other than that, there are too many variables to say the ZO2 is bad at all, which to my ears does a great job with the bass contouring.

 

BTW, I don't have any IEMs, just the MS1000 and AD700, which are both very easy to drive headphones...


Edited by Grev - 11/27/11 at 4:41pm
post #468 of 1126
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Originally Posted by Grev View Post

I am in agreement with JamesMcProgger, two of my ZO2 (not returning them) sounds amazing with the Clip+, while it is too loud with the line-out of my Ipod.

Also after some fiddling with the EQ, the no-eq rockboxed Clip+ is best when having any sort of amp on the other side, other than that, there are too many variables to say the ZO2 is bad at all, which to my ears does a great job with the bass contouring.

BTW, I don't have any IEMs, just the MS1000 and AD700, which are both very easy to drive headphones...

Yes, it is apparent that the first version of ZO2 (even with its faults) had been set to quite a high gain and so did in fact provide more power which could affect the sound especially with certain phones. Will be replacing my lost clip soon so will give my impressions on that combo as well. Should make a great combo when all is remediated.
post #469 of 1126

Has anyone paired the Zo1 or 2 TO THE TF10 PROS? The only thing that didnt satisfy me about the tf10's was the bass, everything else i loved, so, is it a "perfect" iem now :P? Thanks!

post #470 of 1126

ZO2 V1 rules, people. You lot just didnt give the little guy time to burn-in. very_evil_smiley.gif

 

I am very happy with mine, and I havent incurred a cent in shipping costs or lost ZO time.

post #471 of 1126
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ZO2 V1 rules, people. You lot just didnt give the little guy time to burn-in. very_evil_smiley.gif

 

I am very happy with mine, and I havent incurred a cent in shipping costs or lost ZO time.



The Hiss wouldn't go away with burn in and I was mainly gonna use it on the go with IEMS. So it was a necessary loss for me.

post #472 of 1126

 

Well I contacted MizMoxie (Karen) about this low volume and they are working on it and probably have fix upcoming but I let them speak for themselves once they have more detail about it.

 

I just hope you guys to won't be too hard on this new company, they've just started this business and they are very dedicated but lack the resources so far to run it like a bigger company with lots of extensive test run evaluations but on the positive side which could also work like a double edged sword they aren't slowed down with different time schedules and can provide countermeasures faster so less waiting for us to see things moving ahead. However remember this also means risky business moves so if you aren't confident about how the new products turn out I always suggest you wait for hands-on tests first but please don't put too much blame on digiZoid because they are really trying their best and working their butts off to get everything sorted and us customers pleased and you can imagine how you would feel if you were in their shoes. 

 

I really think they should have sticked with ZO1 for a bit longer time before launching ZO2 but what's done can't be undone. I do like my ZO2 but that's irrelevant for those that have issues with it and with those issues fixed it would be a great product without doubt so I hope things still turn out for the better.

 

post #473 of 1126

I'm thinking I never really needed the ZO2 since ZO1 was already great for what it is.  I'll see tomorrow when I receive my revised ZO2 if my thoughts are still the same.  confused.gif

post #474 of 1126
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

 

Well I contacted MizMoxie (Karen) about this low volume and they are working on it and probably have fix upcoming but I let them speak for themselves once they have more detail about it.

 

I just hope you guys to won't be too hard on this new company, they've just started this business and they are very dedicated but lack the resources so far to run it like a bigger company with lots of extensive test run evaluations but on the positive side which could also work like a double edged sword they aren't slowed down with different time schedules and can provide countermeasures faster so less waiting for us to see things moving ahead. However remember this also means risky business moves so if you aren't confident about how the new products turn out I always suggest you wait for hands-on tests first but please don't put too much blame on digiZoid because they are really trying their best and working their butts off to get everything sorted and us customers pleased and you can imagine how you would feel if you were in their shoes. 

 

I really think they should have sticked with ZO1 for a bit longer time before launching ZO2 but what's done can't be undone. I do like my ZO2 but that's irrelevant for those that have issues with it and with those issues fixed it would be a great product without doubt so I hope things still turn out for the better.

 



You never said how it would sound with the tf10s :(

post #475 of 1126
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I'm thinking I never really needed the ZO2 since ZO1 was already great for what it is.  I'll see tomorrow when I receive my revised ZO2 if my thoughts are still the same.  confused.gif



If they messed up again then I'll just opt for a refund.

post #476 of 1126
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You never said how it would sound with the tf10s :(



Maybe he doesn't have a TF10 to test???

post #477 of 1126

Yea I don't, I suppose that's an IEM and sorry I'm not an IEM guy. ;(

post #478 of 1126
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

Yea I don't, I suppose that's an IEM and sorry I'm not an IEM guy. ;(



Time to expand your horizons RPG :). IEMs are great for portability. I just couldn't use full size cans on the go. I'd feel too awkward. The good think about the FX700s is that the sound staging is large like a full size can.

post #479 of 1126
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Time to expand your horizons RPG :). IEMs are great for portability. I just couldn't use full size cans on the go. I'd feel too awkward. The good think about the FX700s is that the sound staging is large like a full size can.


Yea but I don't listen on the go, only at home. This also always ensures me I have something to look forward to when coming home. Portable sources usually lack the configurability I'm looking for too as I'm not the "plug n play"-kind of guy but the tweaker/EQ maniac that has to fiddle with everything to get a more satisfying output.

 

post #480 of 1126
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post


Yea but I don't listen on the go, only at home. This also always ensures me I have something to look forward to when coming home. Portable sources usually lack the configurability I'm looking for too as I'm not the "plug n play"-kind of guy but the tweaker/EQ maniac that has to fiddle with everything to get a more satisfying output.

 



I just find the perfect balance in EQ and set it and forget it. FX700 with Hifiman 601 is an amazing combination and with rockbox :).

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