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Edited by Jupiterknight - 11/17/11 at 9:13pm
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I'm going to find out what it would cost to ship mine to Voldemort - I'd love to see some measurements on this thing. Not particularly worried about most issues mentioned above.

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post

Mike from Headfonia has weighed in with some early (and surprising) impressions in the middle of his Blog conversations with various posters.

 

I've tested the Zo sooner than I thought and I'm loving the sound with the ER4P and the HM-602 that I was using.
I assume you've read about the SmartVector™ technology that they use, right? I don't really know what they do in there, but it does make music sound very good. I'm hearing a smoother and more dynamic sound with the SmartVector on. You can adjust the contour to two extremes. One is a super thick sound that boosts the mid and low end body, the other to a thin yet very spacious sound. On the ER4 and classical music I prefer to add a little bit of thickness to the sound, but only a little bit to the mild amber color.

 

I'd be very interested to hear the V2 (yes, he is talking about the V2 above) with the er4p, particularly given the hiss complaints we've seen to date. My IEMs (or ears ..) just aren't sufficiently sensitive for it to be an issue.


Interesting, Mike must have gotten a review ZO that didn't have the defects the other users on here were complaining about. Mike's usually pretty good with his reviews if the gain and hiss problem was present he would have said so straight out.

 

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Interesting, Mike must have gotten a review ZO that didn't have the defects the other users on here were complaining about. Mike's usually pretty good with his reviews if the gain and hiss problem was present he would have said so straight out.

 



I was thinking the same, DZ says only zos shipped from november 3rd to 8th got that problem, maybe he got it later. because the guy is sure excited about it. http://www.headfonia.com/hm-601-and-hm-602/#comment-363589195

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Let me change my question a bit: What LOD are you using with your amps when listening through iPhone. And does a LOD make a huge difference in SQ?

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well with my experience with using lods along with my iPod classic 7th gen>Voyager amp>ZO v1> EX600s set up,

 

I have and use either a solid wired copper/gold plated lod, that enhances the bottom end very nicely! or a solid wired silver/copper plated one, that falls in the middle of the sound spectrum by enhancing the mids more so, and then a solid wired all silver lod that will brighten and clear/clean up the top end of the sound spectrum,

 

all are very awesome and depending on which sound I'm going for will determin which lod to use, right now because of the hot treble of the EX600s I use the copper/gold plated lod and interconnect to hook my rig together which does very nicely with balancing out the sound, and cooling down the hot treble!!

 

so along with different IEM qualities, you can match up whatever synerZOagizes best!!! I think the type of wire used has more of an effect with how the lod effects the sound overall vs. other elements like connectors and plugs, and manufactures such as ALO, Emmeline,  although very very nicealso awefully expensive?

 

here's a pic of what I use made from Chris_Himself!

 

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a couple pics of how I use the ZO v1 in my rig! some with, some without the cables by C_H!

 

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Let me change my question a bit: What LOD are you using with your amps when listening through iPhone. And does a LOD make a huge difference in SQ?



so I use lods and interconnects made by Chris_Himself, ka-sweet!!!!http://www.head-fi.org/u/55992/chris-himself

 


Edited by ANDEROAN - 11/18/11 at 12:08pm
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Let me change my question a bit: What LOD are you using with your amps when listening through iPhone. And does a LOD make a huge difference in SQ?


LOD's shoul not make a difference, it is only short interconnect. go for the one with better build quality.

 

I will be using the fiio L9 and a homemade one LOD next week. the general concensus seems to be that line out + the Zo as of new is too loud. but I cant be sure.

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yea that's what I also thought to at first, but after having gotten and heard first hand what difference in the sound signiture that they can have! I am a believer,  

 

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LOD's shoul not make a difference, it is only short interconnect. go for the one with better build quality.

 

I will be using the fiio L9 and a homemade one LOD next week. the general concensus seems to be that line out + the Zo as of new is too loud. but I cant be sure.


 

I started out with a high profile lod, that was a copper/silver plated one, and then after wanting to go with a low profile, and not for any of the types of wire being used yet as of this point, but it wasn't until after I picked up a low profile one that was an all solid silver lod, from fatsam, that I discovered what a big difference it does make, and especially along with my TF10s, in brightening up the whole sound, it made the bass less muddy and gave it a bigger soundstage! and so a believer was born, out of the throws of dishumanity and the dredges of Hi-Fi mazery, I found my way thru, lol, oops sorry OT! thats another story all together!

 

well the 262s came along next, and they needed help with the bottome end, the copper/silver plated lod helped out in that dept. somewhat more, than the all silver low profile lod from fatsam, so then I picked up an all copper Fiio L9 lod! yep yep yep! much better for the Re262s bottom end more so than the copper/silver plated one, anyways you get the pic! the type of material that you wind up choosing WILL make a significant difference in the overall sound signiture, NO NO NO need to spend an arm and a leg! go cheap! but there are some nice builders out there that won't cost an arm and a leg, and still have GREAT build quality!!


 

 


Edited by ANDEROAN - 11/18/11 at 12:06pm
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^^ So, moving the subject to the 4 inch interconnect that comes with the ZO, I wonder what the improvement will be if I replace it with a custom made one?

 

 

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there is only one way to truly find out...

 

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^^ So, moving the subject to the 4 inch interconnect that comes with the ZO, I wonder what the improvement will be if I replace it with a custom made one?

 

 



 

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Did you make a face of that on purpose or is it just my great imagination tricking me? :P

 

I also believe in cables, as I got 3 pair of different stereo cables (one is an extension) that are all the cheapish type that come bundled with other stuff and they all have a bit different sound to them. Seems the one with the lowest resistance sounds best to me. One of them have the ability to lower the hissing slightly (highest resistance I suppose) but it also sounds the worst to me, well it's got the thickest/muddiest/veiled sound which doesn't play nice with the warmish sounding headphones I have/like. The one with the least resistance (which has the most noise) is brightest, most detailed which might sound even a bit too thin with certain headphones but pairs nicely with my headphones. The extension cable is like somewhere in-between and actually very slightly enhances the soundstage, I like pairing the extension cable with the bright cable lol. With a PRO 900 which has a thin sound it would probably sound best the opposite etc and I don't mean you should buy a $50 cable or whatever but one $5 might sound different to another $5 cable and then depending on what kind of signature your headphone has it depends which cable's sound works best with it.

 

I'd really like to know what would be a cheap say $10 but good around 2.5m or so stereo cable (because many cables are like low quality that costs probably like 0.30~$0.50 or something to make but they sell them for $10 nonetheless). Since only like small group of people that are audiophiles (not all audiophiles are cable believers either) it's hard to find info what would be "worthy" (ie not made by random chinese company with no quality control etc with poor care of their workers etc) somewhat universally available cable to buy that has a somewhat bright/analytical signature to it (as that's what pairs nicely for my warm sounding headphones). Would just like to get a proper stereo cable instead of these "bundled" cheap cables. Since there's soooooooooooooo many different stereo cable manufacturers around and it's totally impossible to say how they are sounding like (it's not like every people can tell any difference either lol) would be nice to hear of some1 who has experimented with different cables (preferable with more widely available cables from an internet retailer perhaps).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/18/11 at 12:48pm
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RPGWiZaRD do you know an online store in here that sells LODs 'n other stuff like that?

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Originally Posted by ANDEROAN View Post

yea that's what I also thought to at first, but after having gotten and heard first hand what difference in the sound signiture that they can have! I am a believer,  

 



god bless your gifted ears.

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RPGWiZaRD do you know an online store in here that sells LODs 'n other stuff like that?

 

No, I wish I would know a good place too in europe.
 

 

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honeslty I didnt ask without tracking, but will do. it is not going to be cheap anyway.



 

That's the main problem here, too... Plus my ZO2 is on customs right now, and knowing how they can be bad guys, i'm going to pay twice it's price in no time... This ZO quest is turning into a nightmare to me... I hope the hiss is not a problem to my ears... If I need to return it, I'm going to cry out loud like a little girl...

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