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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

Hello gentlemen, the purpose of this thread is exactly what the the title says.

 

I am not that well versed in the headphone world, and nor do I have the luxury of trying out headphones at a physical location, so it is my hope that someone can intervene and help me out. 

 

I am in need of a solid and great sounding full size headphone. I very much would prefer a closed design, but I may consider open if it's simply superior to closed offerings

 

My likes: I like good instrument separation, AND bass. Not Dr. Dr Beats bassy, but I do like my music to feel lively. I cannot use specific audiophile terminology, because well, I am not an audiophile.

 

Headphones I've purchased and tried: AD700, SR-60, ATH-M50 and Denon D1100.

 

What I am considering: Denon D2000, and Sennheiser HD650.

 

 

 

post #2 of 18

Heya,

 

D2000 hands down.

 

Closed. No big amp requirement. Super comfy. Great sound stage. And it sounds way more fun and involving than the HD650 in my opinion.

 

Very best,

post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for replying MalVeauX! 

 

I guess that's that then. So, the D2000 is more fun to listen too, eh? How about comfort-wise, between the HD650 and D2000: which wins?

post #4 of 18

In my opinion the D2000 is a fun phone because of it's highly colored overly bassy sound, bass heads only need apply sort of thing. The HD650 is accurate, albeit slightly warmer than the closer to neutral HD600, they do however benefit greatly from amps.

post #5 of 18

D2000. There's a palpable sense of bass that doesn't sacrifice articulation - a fun headphone; the D5000 is an all-wood, more expensive version of the same basic design. The HD650 is also pleasing, but would profit from an amp; there's enough power in the D2000 to work just find without amping. Frankly, the D2000 is more "fun," while the HD650 is a little "warm" without amping, and with a good amp, full and accurate. 

 

A hint: if you're near an Apple Store, they might have an HD650 on display, if you want a feeling for the comfort and general sound. 

post #6 of 18

and the D2000 is much better than the D1100?

post #7 of 18

 

 

What did you like and dislike, pros and cons, regarding the headphones you've already tried?

 

"Headphones I've purchased and tried: AD700, SR-60, ATH-M50 and Denon D1100."

 

Might shed some light on what you're after exactly.

post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by J-Meister View Post

Hello gentlemen, the purpose of this thread is exactly what the the title says.

 

I am not that well versed in the headphone world, and nor do I have the luxury of trying out headphones at a physical location, so it is my hope that someone can intervene and help me out. 

 

I am in need of a solid and great sounding full size headphone. I very much would prefer a closed design, but I may consider open if it's simply superior to closed offerings

 

My likes: I like good instrument separation, AND bass. Not Dr. Dr Beats bassy, but I do like my music to feel lively. I cannot use specific audiophile terminology, because well, I am not an audiophile.

 

Headphones I've purchased and tried: AD700, SR-60, ATH-M50 and Denon D1100.

 

What I am considering: Denon D2000, and Sennheiser HD650.

 

 

 


 

Now that you have a few recommendations, I advise you try them out. I own both the D2000 and the HD650 and the latter are more difficult to drive and require rather expensive gear to make them shine. Also the HD650 does not have the low bass of the D2000. The D2000, I purchased them a few days ago after spending 1 hour in a shop only with cans, are easier too drive, of a very high quality and they are not coloured at any range. They are tuned differently from the HD650 and the Beats Pro and you cannot go wrong with them. 

 

 

Don't be fooled by graphs because they rarely reflect what you perceive. Try cans out before you purchase! It is imperative! I also find the D2000 to be extremely comfortable!

 

 

DENON

post #9 of 18

but can you talk a litle about the D1100 why do you want the D2000 over the D1100? thanks 

post #10 of 18

I was thinking the same thing, D1100 to Denon D2000, it's a change but you're not exactly taking leaps and bounds.

post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies guys.

 

Regarding the headphones I've tried:

 

The SR-60s were the first entry-level "audiophile" headphones I bought. They broke on me after 6 or so months of use. I don't really remember their sound that well. What I do remember, is that the instrument separation was lacking, and that they were ill-suited for gaming (gunshots were deafening). They and the D1100 are the most comfortable headphones I've tried.

 

Next up the AD700s. The instrument separation and sound stage on those are terrific, and the sound signature which I can best describe as being "airy" is very pleasant. However, the lack of bass really are their achilles heel. It's really the lack of bass that make them an "incomplete" headphone in my opinion. Plus, for thick rimmed glasses wears such as myself, they don't fit well.

 

I bought the Denon D1100 because I read they were a smaller brother to the D2000 and I couldn't justify the $350 price tag on the D2000 at the time (after researching that they went for as low as $200 in the past). Anyway, I liked their sound a lot, they did a lot of things decently in such a small package, but their build quality is just god-awful. The headband is just made out of this filmy plastic. Right away when I bought them, I knew they were not built to last, and I was right-- they broke after two months of usage. If the D2000 sound better (what I'm hopping for) and they aren't as flimsy (what I'm hoping for too), then I think I will be a happy camper.

 

Now bringing me to my most recent headphone purchase - the ATH-M50. I immediately noted the neutral and analytical aspect of this monitor class of headphones. They don't have enough instrument separation or bass for that matter, to my liking, but they're a very good jack of all trades headphone.. Anyway, my main gripe with them, is that they're too uncomfortable. The clamp is too strong for my head, and they don't expand enough to give me my desired level of comfort. I am currently trying to see if I can get used to them, because I feel very lazy about returning them, but as of right now, I think they are going back.

 

I just opened this thread to see if anyone can recommend me something specific for my case, and something I haven't heard about before. Hopefully, you guys can enlighten me some more before I make another ignorant purchase. I just don't want to take another shot in the dark. So please, keep the suggestions and input coming.

 

Thanks again.

post #12 of 18

 

Unfortunately depending on the production run, D2000's can suffer from a loose screw, your pair could end up looking like this :-

 

brokend2000.jpg

 

You broke a pair of SR60i's in six months, you broke a pair

of D1100's in two months.

 

One of two possibilities here :-

 

a) You're very unlucky

 

or

 

b) You treat your headphones like absolute crap.

 

My advice assuming you're not very unlucky? Keep the M50's they're probably the ones

that will last, if you manage to break these eventually - give up on headphones entirely.

 

 

post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 

In my defense, I have a very big head and so that may be why headphones don't last with me. The SR-60s literally came apart one day as I was putting them on. My theory is that too much pressure is exerted on the headphones to accommodate my big head.

 

Like I said before, I really want to keep the M50s, but they're just too uncomfortable. Especially after wearing the D1100, it's hard to go from them to this. Can you recommend any other headphone in this class for my specific situation?

post #14 of 18

Hmmm, ok so you need something that suits a wide head.

 

You seem to have fairly refined taste with your assessment of your previous headphones

which is actually detrimental because you're likely to need to spend more cash!

 

I cannot see the HD650 being comfortable, only you can answer that by auditioning

it but from what you say I imagine it will be a head clamp torture device.

 

Have you thought about the AKG range?

 

Their unique design should fit your head, decent sound stage and very good

build quality ~ think along the lines of a refined AD700, but they still will

not be bassy monsters. Has to be a compromise somewhere.

 

I recommend the K272 HD

 

AKG_K272HD.jpg

post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 

I'll be doing research on those. Thanks mate.

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