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post #16 of 35

I congratulate you for the longest post EVER! Too bad barely any1's gonna have the guts to read through all that. Oo

post #17 of 35

Simply find a set that have a sound you like. I like the over all sound of the Denon AH-D7000s. Then also do what you can with all your other pieces of equipment to get the sound to be tuned and not over barring. Bass is best when it has an underlying groove of PRaT.

post #18 of 35
Not sure what kind of drugs that guy is smoking.

What bassheads want is pretty clear. Have you ever listened to music on a nice car stereo, or a nice speaker system in a club? You hear the bass, and it's booming and heavy, but you also hear the instruments and vocals 100% clearly at the same time. All I want is that same experience in a headphone, yet for some godforsaken reason it's not possible (at least not yet for me, I'm buying the HFI-580 next, then maybe a Denon set).
post #19 of 35
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this man knows what he is taking about :D

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Originally Posted by jiggawho View Post

Not sure what kind of drugs that guy is smoking.
What bassheads want is pretty clear. Have you ever listened to music on a nice car stereo, or a nice speaker system in a club? You hear the bass, and it's booming and heavy, but you also hear the instruments and vocals 100% clearly at the same time. All I want is that same experience in a headphone, yet for some godforsaken reason it's not possible (at least not yet for me, I'm buying the HFI-580 next, then maybe a Denon set).


 

post #20 of 35

 

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Originally Posted by jiggawho View Post

Not sure what kind of drugs that guy is smoking.
What bassheads want is pretty clear. Have you ever listened to music on a nice car stereo, or a nice speaker system in a club? You hear the bass, and it's booming and heavy, but you also hear the instruments and vocals 100% clearly at the same time. All I want is that same experience in a headphone, yet for some godforsaken reason it's not possible (at least not yet for me, I'm buying the HFI-580 next, then maybe a Denon set).


Yea I want this too and I've found the only way to truly get this in a headphone is to use a good quality EQ (preferable hardware based) and having the best possible bass boost amp such as digiZoid ZO helps a lot too. Without that you're only gonna get close but not quite.

 

To get there to have lots of everything, strong bass as well as clear and detailed mids and highs you need a very "forward" sound, trust me on this. The whole headphone should be forward sounding in the whole range. Usually they boost bass range in the headphone but leaves midrange neutral and highs varies quite a bit. Well to get lots of everything you simply need to boost everything and this is where the high quality EQ comes in so you remain as clean / natural signal as possible despite the adjustments. The result is fantastic though when you've heard the result I have with my setup. In fact DigiZoid's "SmartVektor" technology works exactly like this, providing a more forward sound which is why you get stronger bass but the mids and highs remain very clear and detailed.

 

Don't believe me? Check this demo sample, I find it very accurate / giving a fair demo of what the ZO amp does. It switches SmartVektor on/off every 10 seconds:

 

http://www.digizoid.com/invest/smartvektor_recording_demo.mp3

 


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/4/11 at 11:15am
post #21 of 35
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what your set up?? :)

post #22 of 35
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whats your set up? :)

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Yea I want this too and I've found the only way to truly get this in a headphone is to use a good quality EQ (preferable hardware based) and having the best possible bass boost amp such as digiZoid ZO helps a lot too. Without that you're only gonna get close but not quite.

 

To get there to have lots of everything, strong bass as well as clear and detailed mids and highs you need a very "forward" sound, trust me on this. The whole headphone should be forward sounding in the whole range. Usually they boost bass range in the headphone but leaves midrange neutral and highs varies quite a bit. Well to get lots of everything you simply need to boost everything and this is where the high quality EQ comes in so you remain as clean / natural signal as possible despite the adjustments. The result is fantastic though when you've heard the result I have with my setup.

 



 

post #23 of 35

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what your set up?? :)


Audigy 2 ZS with kX Audio drivers or X-Fi Titanium HD (these have fantastic EQs which allow boosting frequencies up to 12dB without lowering preamp and still doesn't distort, so you basicly get a more forward sound) 

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digiZoid ZO amp 

whatever headphone you like really

 

Try the sample I edited in in my previous post.

 

EDIT: I meant this demo http://www.digizoid.com/invest/smartvektor_recording_demo.mp3

 

It switches SmartVektor on/off every 10 seconds.

 

With this technique I can get stronger than Monster Beats or Sony XB bass if I want but still remain detailed in the mids and highs, it's that "club" sound as described earlier where all stuff in the songs are like "shouted" in your face. Too bad headphone manufacturers doesn't tweak headphones to sound like this out of box. That's more like how speakers sounds like, especially when you use a subwoofer + other speakers for mids and highs. As a result you get a more engaging and dynamic fun sound.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/4/11 at 11:46am
post #24 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggawho View Post

Not sure what kind of drugs that guy is smoking.
What bassheads want is pretty clear. Have you ever listened to music on a nice car stereo, or a nice speaker system in a club? You hear the bass, and it's booming and heavy, but you also hear the instruments and vocals 100% clearly at the same time. All I want is that same experience in a headphone, yet for some godforsaken reason it's not possible (at least not yet for me, I'm buying the HFI-580 next, then maybe a Denon set).


I too, thought the same thing, and tried many of the bassy phones ppl mentioned liked the M50, XB500, XB1000, ATWS70.

But, I've finally found the phone that does exactly what I want, the Denon D1100.  It's really bassy, and reached down deep yet the vocals are not far away, but at the same time not ear-piercing.  It's PERFECT for dance/vocal trance music!

post #25 of 35
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nice i think adding the digiZoid ZO amp to any headphones will give it a much bigger boom and a better extetion

 

the crative card is soo good as i have it too recomend it any day

post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by sid12345678910 View Post

nice i think adding the digiZoid ZO amp to any headphones will give it a much bigger boom and a better extetion

 

the crative card is soo good as i have it too recomend it any day



Wait til the Z02 comes out next week or so ;).

post #27 of 35

if you want bass and detail too go for the denon's

post #28 of 35

Probably the Ultrasone Signature pro or the V3 Darths (V4 has less bass)

 

 

LET THE BASS CANNON KICK IT 

post #29 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by sid12345678910 View Post

nice i think adding the digiZoid ZO amp to any headphones will give it a much bigger boom and a better extetion

 

the crative card is soo good as i have it too recomend it any day



BTW is that your cat? He looks pissed and cool :)

post #30 of 35

I will continue where I left in the previous post.

 

The ZO isn't necessarily a requirement, you can get to a nice very bassy sound signature yet have nice mids and highs at the same time but it's gonna take a very good quality EQ and there are few around that's good enough so ZO definitely helps having.

 

What I do is to first adjust the lows of the new headphone I receive with both ZO and EQ (it depends a bit what bass boost lvl setting works best depending on headphone a bit) according to how strong bass response you really want to hear while totally disregarding the mids and highs for now. After you're satisfied with the bass response start boosting the whole range in mids and highs until it starts sounding clear/balanced to go with the strong bass response and finally start finetuning the different frequencies on the EQ according to the headphone's needs. Since ZO brings the whole range more "forward" thanks to SmartVektor you won't need as much EQ adjustment especially in mids/highs if you use ZO to get to the same result as if you hadn't used it. If you're not using ZO you'll have to boost the whole range on the EQ more instead which naturally leads to a bit less "clean" result but if using a good enough EQ (like I said kX Audio driver's and Titanium HD's EQ are very capable) the sound signature change easily outweighs the small "artificialness" in the signal these good quality EQs may bring.

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