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post #76 of 533
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Guys, Sachu and I resolved our difference on the gear issue in PM, and so I humbly respect that everyone let it drop.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #77 of 533

I second this. Very evenhanded response to someone extremely pompous/rude. I think he's the one with the "touched nerve" It's becoming more clear why you're so respected around these parts Skylab. Bravo! atsmile.gif
 

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beerchug.gif You Go Rob!

 



 

post #78 of 533

@ Nick01,

 

What sachu mentioned makes sense to me. People all have different perspectives and preference, which essentially makes the forum a much more interesting place, as different opinions meet with each other and thus it may yield constructive outcome. Everybody here has his own right to freely express his proper thoughts, and people should in return show at least some respect. I don't see any problems that sachu's posts have (though I disagree with his doubt about Rob's rig). Instead he is being constructive while you are not, by simply passing harsh judgment on someone you don't even know about.

 

@ Skylab,

 

Sorry maybe I should focus on your review and LCD-3 instead of commenting on other stuff in your thread. Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful review, as always.

 


Edited by HelloHell - 11/1/11 at 6:20pm
post #79 of 533
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While I certainly appreciate the efforts that Rob has put into reviewing the LCD-3, one cannot discount Sachu's point - there's better equipment on which the LCD-3 can be heard. Just like there's lower end, too.

 

My personal take is that if it sounded great on Rob's equipment, it has the potential to sound even better on higher-end rigs. I don't have a higher-end rig, so I'm happy to read Rob's take on the phones. However, to tell a fellow member to leave a thread because he has a dissenting opinion is negating the very essence of online fora.
 


It seems like you agree with sachu's condescending posts...oh well..

I however will not retract my previous post. If he has the right to make such posts, I too have the right to say what I want to him.

 

Comments crossed out as per skylab's wishes.
 

 


Edited by Nick01 - 11/1/11 at 6:56pm
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While I certainly appreciate the efforts that Rob has put into reviewing the LCD-3, one cannot discount Sachu's point - there's better equipment on which the LCD-3 can be heard. Just like there's lower end, too.

 

My personal take is that if it sounded great on Rob's equipment, it has the potential to sound even better on higher-end rigs. I don't have a higher-end rig, so I'm happy to read Rob's take on the phones. However, to tell a fellow member to leave a thread because he has a dissenting opinion is negating the very essence of online fora.
 



 


Are  you saying that Rob equipment is not high end? The Leben is 3K and the Redwine is 4K so where are you coming from. Based on you lopsided post I would venture to think your just trolling. Do you know if the Cavalli is better? Have you heard any of the stuff Rob has. His gear is all high end and he can probably buy and sell most people here four or five times over. Has plenty of experience and know what does and does not sound good. Sounds like Sachu has his own agenda whatever that may be and other comments coming on the R10 were equally as ridiculous as Rob has everything in house and the other one has his own agenda as well.  Rob gave an honest and his opinion on what he experienced. I think it was well written and informative and yet he attacked for no reason . Its always a mystery on this site.

 

post #81 of 533

Can you guys stop threadcrapping?  He said to drop it.  It's really annoying.

 

Thanks for the review, Rob.

post #82 of 533

Sorry if I took the thread off course, and this is the last post - just wanted to clarify. Far be it from me to troll or to think Rob's equipment isn't high end. On the contrary, I honestly appreciate his contribution here and I happen to agree with his position. All I said was if Sachu had a different opinion, let him have it, and yes, there's always higher end, just like there's always a bigger fish in the sea. That's it, and no more to that.
 

Apologies to all that I have inadvertently offended.

 

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Are  you saying that Rob equipment is not high end? The Leben is 3K and the Redwine is 4K so where are you coming from. Based on you lopsided post I would venture to think your just trolling. Do you know if the Cavalli is better? Have you heard any of the stuff Rob has. His gear is all high end and he can probably buy and sell most people here four or five times over. Has plenty of experience and know what does and does not sound good. Sounds like Sachu has his own agenda whatever that may be and other comments coming on the R10 were equally as ridiculous as Rob has everything in house and the other one has his own agenda as well.  Rob gave an honest and his opinion on what he experienced. I think it was well written and informative and yet he attacked for no reason . Its always a mystery on this site.

 



 

post #83 of 533
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I don't think it was possible at CanJam to form any sort of accurate opinion on open headphones as the ambient noise level was much too high.  I definitely think one can form some preliminary impressions, but the environment of a show isn't good for anything more than that, IMHO.  

I disagree, but that is my freedom to do so. The only limitation that a show like RMAF places on me is not being able to listen with my chosen tracks every time and not being able to swap around specific pieces of gear I want to listen to. What I was able to listen to I was able to hear distinct differences between all 69 combinations I tried. I worried before the show that after a few rigs, they would bleed together and I would lose the ability to judge accurately, but in the end everything stayed starkly separated and I was able to start with a blank slate for each rig.

I didn't intend to side track your thread. Sorry for that. If anyone would like to discuss this, they are free to pm me or start a new thread.
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I think the amp part is no question given Skylab's expereience with amps. I mean just look at the portable amps and tube amps comparison threads he gave us. I don't think anyone is more qualified than Skylab to comment on amp synergy. I can understand some may want the reviews done on higher end source gear. I will try the LCD3 with my Esoteric K01 and Skylab's top tube amp once I get the LCD3. I still think Maxvla's opinion that it sounds best with the Dark Star is heavily biased by the Boulder source. If you read Skylab's Dark Star review, a lot of money goes into the chassis and the LCD3 really does not need so much power. Most people on Headfi are skeptical on higher end sources but the attributes he mentioned with that setup, that is center imaging and 3D sound staging, is known to be an attribute that higher end sources can bring.


Edited by googleli - 11/1/11 at 6:45pm
post #85 of 533

Awesome review.  I second Takezo's comments re your writing style.  

 

Thumbs up.


Edited by sphinxvc - 11/1/11 at 7:02pm
post #86 of 533
Thread Starter 

There is always a level up, in audio.  No one debates that.  I'm quite certain that a Bolder or Esoteric source would sound better than my DAC.  But I don't think that it's the case that a $2K source and $3K amp are not appropriate equipment to review a $2K headphone with.  I think they are.

 

I want to re-iterate that I very strongly encourage people to post their own opinions of the LCD-3 no matter how different they may be from mine.  I had very different opinions from some people about the Edition 10, for example - I thought it sounded quite bad, whereas others liked it a lot.  I think it's helpful for there to be a wide variety of opinions.

 

I also prefer for people to be respectful of each other, and I would humbly ask that this thread stay respectful.

post #87 of 533

Thanks for the Awesome Review! I really need to listen to these someday

post #88 of 533
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I had very different opinions from some people about the Edition 10, for example - I thought it sounded quite bad, whereas others liked it a lot.

I have a hard time believing anyone thinks the Ed10s sound good. Really just fancy dressed garbage. I'm with you 100%.
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I have a hard time believing anyone thinks the Ed10s sound good. Really just fancy dressed garbage. I'm with you 100%.


FWIW, I remember Rob catching a lot of flack for his critical review of the HD800s.

 

post #90 of 533

Apple's and oranges are not the same, as they say...

 

(LCD-3's with crappy setup vs LCD-3's with good setup)

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