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post #16 of 36

What do they mean by worker?

post #17 of 36

If there was a campaign to slow down and make speed camers and traps very exepnsive to maintain, we would get rid of most of them.

 

I take the view that if you fail to see that there is a speed trap or anticipate there may be one, what else have you been missing?

post #18 of 36
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

I started taking it easier after my last speeding ticket in '99. I got nabbed in some podunk county in eastern Oregon.
Which reminds me, I sent over a bunch of formal discovery and set it for trial. The DA called me up, whining, and wanted to know if I really wanted formal discovery.
'Yes.'
He said he'd drop the fine to $20. I mailed him a check for $20 a couple hours later. biggrin.gif
My advice is to schedule it for a hearing/trial and start demanding documents from them. They expect you to pay the bill without a fight. Throw some paper back and it quickly becomes more expensive to deal with than the money they'll get. Change the cost:benefit ratio and they become surprisingly cooperative.
Though these days I drive the limit unless I have a stalking horse. There's always some chucklehead who wants to speed. Fine, I'll gladly let him pass. Then I'll pace him about 1/2 mile back. I cannot remember how many times they've flushed out the cops for me.

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Fight it. It's not worth the money for them to pull the cop off his beat to testify against you and they'll negotiate the ticket. Caught a break on the fine last time I fought one. 

 

The worst part isn't the ticket anyway, it's the insurance company when they discover the points on your license and punish you with higher rates for the next 3 or so years. 
 

 

post #19 of 36

Escort 9500ix... GPS-based red light camera and speed trap database with superb detection and it learns on the go to filter false alerts.  Pair it with Blinder laser jammers front and rear and you are pretty much impervious to LEO.  The only way to fly.

post #20 of 36
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Originally Posted by Prog Rock Man View Post

If there was a campaign to slow down and make speed camers and traps very exepnsive to maintain, we would get rid of most of them.

 

I take the view that if you fail to see that there is a speed trap or anticipate there may be one, what else have you been missing?


When our cameras weren't generating enough revenue, they started assigning more traffic duty to the police to generate more income...

 


 

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Originally Posted by Todd R View Post

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Fight it. It's not worth the money for them to pull the cop off his beat to testify against you and they'll negotiate the ticket. Caught a break on the fine last time I fought one. 

 

The worst part isn't the ticket anyway, it's the insurance company when they discover the points on your license and punish you with higher rates for the next 3 or so years. 
 

 


See DigitalFreak's post on the previous page. Up here they'll happily throw more red tape at you to make it not worth your time to try and fight it. 

 

post #21 of 36

I'm pretty sure that's illegal... (at least in Canada as far as I know)

 


 

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Originally Posted by Il Mostro View Post

Escort 9500ix... GPS-based red light camera and speed trap database with superb detection and it learns on the go to filter false alerts.  Pair it with Blinder laser jammers front and rear and you are pretty much impervious to LEO.  The only way to fly.



 

post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by seaskimmer View Post

I'm pretty sure that's illegal... (at least in Canada as far as I know)

 


 



 



In Canada, yes.  I know LEO will confiscate window mounted detectors.  A hard wired unit is very stealthy.  Radar detectors are legal throughout most of the USA.  Here in California, laser jammers are illegal, but radar is not.  

post #23 of 36

On the subject of speeding tickets; don't assume you're safe just because there's someone in front of you going a lot faster. I was heading up to the UP earlier this year, about a 3-hour drive in hilly country with no one in sight. I wasn't paying enough attention, and my speed kept slipping pretty high. Then right as I was coming to a hill, this guy pulls out from behind me and zips past over the hill; I checked my speedometer and noticed I was going about 85 mph (yes, it's a lot over the speed limit), but I figured I'd be safe going over the hill because the guy in front of me was going a lot faster, right?

 

Wrong; we both went over the hill, him still leaving me in the dirt, going at least 95 mph. He passed a cop parked in a turnaround radar gunning us; the cop didn't follow him, and instead waited until I passed (by this time having reduced speed to 70 mph) and pulled me over. He didn't ticket me for the full amount over, which was nice of him, but what really annoyed me was why didn't he ticket the first guy, who was going enough faster than me to leave me standing?

 

It's not like I didn't deserve the ticket, but the guy in front deserved it more.

post #24 of 36
That's why I give the faster car a healthy lead, at least half a mile. More if there's good visibility. That gives you plenty of time to react when the other car gets picked up.

Sometimes they have several cars waiting to pick off speeders, too.

And I'm always careful around hills, overpasses and bridges. Those are favorite hiding places.
post #25 of 36

I saw the OPP pull a sneaky one before. They pulled over 5 cars at once. They tagged them, then had a squad car enter on a ramp a bit further down, and slow them all down (single lane highway) while the other squad car came from behind and ticketed them all. Good thing I was going the other way.

 

I also had a summerjob with the government and one of the jobs was doing delivery errands. I remember going 150 (50 over=street racing) past a marked OPP cruiser in my Ontario gov. truck and getting a friendly wave from the cop...

post #26 of 36

I have been awful lucky with the tickets I have gotten, specifically that I wasn't put in jail or my license revoked.  Then I got a radar detector which helped considerably.  However, speeding and then hitting the brakes hard to react to a signal can get expensive when it comes to warping rotors and other wear and tear on a car.  I don't really speed anymore because the cost of fuel makes it somewhat expensive as well.  Driving over the speed limit is kind of like sex, if you don't have protection, it gets very expensive.

post #27 of 36

hate th0se

post #28 of 36
Thread Starter 

Well of all the rotton... bah I was driving down a residential and saw a flash of light; I'm thinking I got nabbed by a mobile camera.

 

Okay I can accept that I'm at fault, and really they're just doing their job, but couldn't the resources of the police department be put to better use rather that sitting on a roadside pointing a radar at people going just barely over the limit? The unmarked cruiser was parked right on the road, so I had to swerve a little around it. I was just coming off a stop sign so not going very fast. Slowly accelerating, not gunning it (which I rarely ever do anyways) since it's a residential and all and there's another stop sign a few seconds up. Two blocks down I see a flash in my mirror. $%&@ I take a look at my speedometer, I'm 5 kph (3mph) over. Seriously? They pointed the radar at me and waited until I got just above the threshold of the detector so they could snap the picture.

 

 

post #29 of 36
Thread Starter 

I think I've actually become a worse driver now. Instead of breeding caution, I'm now filled with paranoia of encountering another speed trap. I'm driving slower, but also nervously tapping the brake every time I come across an intersection or parked car. I'm also braking hard at yellows when I really should go ahead, which forces the car behind me to slam hard. I've had to avoid a rear ender a couple times now by tapping the gas again (icy roads and all that). My driving has become more erratic from fear of punishment and I spend more time watching my speedometer instead of the road. 

 

There have been a lot more speed traps showing up in my neighbourhood lately. Must be a year end rush to meet budget. There are two school zones nearby, but the cops never park there. People only go 5 over on average there. Nope, the police can make way more money on the long service road at the other end of the neighbourhood where there are no pedestrians or crossing lanes and drivers tend to go faster. It's not like safety was ever a consideration right?

post #30 of 36

Tell them you are American and you thought it meant MPH wink.gif
 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Okay, so I accept that it's my fault for not reacting to the signage quickly enough, but frak it these things are just blatant money makers for the city. I was driving down the street which is mostly an 80 kph limit, except for one short section that turns to 60 before the road ends that I forgot about (because hell, there's nothing there except the end of the road). What really ticks me off is that I was under limit for most of it going 76, and hell my foot was even off the gas and I was just coasting in towards the end. But of course, there's an unmarked cruiser parked right at the 60 sign and it flags me down. I thought there was something wrong with my car at first.

 

Bah, just so utterly pointless, and the location has really nothing to do with safety. It's just a money grab. I'm sure other cities are much the same; though mine has actually had people trying to band together and file suit because of how blatant it has become. There was a report released a couple years ago about how their red light cameras weren't making as much money as they'd hoped, so then they upped the number of speed traps to make up the difference. 

 

Bah. Time to sell off one of the cans I guess...

 

edit: $254 for 16 km over (roughly 10 mph over)



 

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