If I own Denon D7000 Should I consider a Sen HD650? - Page 4

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Originally Posted by shane55 

The HD650 has no sibillance. Just as the sun has no clouds...

You satisfied your curiossity and made a choice that works well for you. (And one I agree with.)
 

 

I think it will always come down to personal tastes though.  I've borrowed some D7000's from a local head-fi'er and have been listening to them through my home set up the past two nights and do find the D7000's are more neutral and detailed in the higher frequency.  However, I find myself somewhat bored with them after a little while as the music doesn't seem as lively to me.  Currently not getting as good a fit with them as I could due to some circumstances, but I can't see that improving what I'm missing from listening to HD650's or my W1000X. 

As Shane says, scratch the itch and see if it sticks around or goes away.  With a good return policy or even decent secondary market here, it's a little too easy to just go through and try a few headphones until you find one pleasing to your ears.

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Originally Posted by daigo 

I think it will always come down to personal tastes though.  I've borrowed some D7000's from a local head-fi'er and have been listening to them through my home set up the past two nights and do find the D7000's are more neutral and detailed in the higher frequency.  However, I find myself somewhat bored with them after a little while as the music doesn't seem as lively to me.  Currently not getting as good a fit with them as I could due to some circumstances, but I can't see that improving what I'm missing from listening to HD650's or my W1000X. 

 

As Shane says, scratch the itch and see if it sticks around or goes away.  With a good return policy or even decent secondary market here, it's a little too easy to just go through and try a few headphones until you find one pleasing to your ears.

 

I've got to go with Ahzari here. I've never thought of the D7k as boring either. So, my friend, what say you listen to my D7k's on Saturday, I'll listen to what you bring, and we'll do a quick check of each others sanity.

Last year when I visited your rig, I listened to what you had and it was spectacular (of course the vinyl source helped... heh, heh...).

But of course I agree that it all comes down to personal tastes. See you soon.

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Originally Posted by shane55 

I've got to go with Ahzari here. I've never thought of the D7k as boring either. So, my friend, what say you listen to my D7k's on Saturday, I'll listen to what you bring, and we'll do a quick check of each others sanity.

Last year when I visited your rig, I listened to what you had and it was spectacular (of course the vinyl source helped... heh, heh...).

 

But of course I agree that it all comes down to personal tastes. See you soon.

 

 

I have to admit, it might just be a case of me having listened to my HD650's too much over the past couple of years on this set up, though the W1000X has been getting all my head time since I picked it up.  You might have me mixed up with Horio, who brought the vinyl source last year (which was excellent).  My set up was briefly set up by someone to get a quick listen when he tracked me down to ask me for it.  I did enjoy your D7000 out of your Benchmark DAC1 at the meet last year, shane55.  

I use a gamma-2 to Elekit TU-882AS, which I think is a very warm amp, so it might not be ideal with a can like the D7000.  I had briefly owned a pair of D7000 about a year and a half ago, but returned it after a week for various reasons.  You're welcome to come try out my set up at the coming meet.  Looking forward to trying some of the many different gear people plan to bring!

It's official - The D7000's are not boring! 

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Originally Posted by Ahzari 

I got them to about 200-250 hours (the HD650s) had them only for a few weeks, my D7000s probably have 400+.. I've lately been going through so many headphones that they haven't been getting much head time .. But the more I listen to other cans the more I appreciate what the D7ks have to offer. I always go back and think hmm Denon got it right with these. 

 

 

 

Totally agree with you, but sometimes I get tangled up in my cords and the RS220s being a possible wireless HD650 would be great for me... for watching movies/tv I feel like warmer cans tend to do movies better.
 

 

At least you gave 'em a chance. I've seen headphones get da boot here on HF with as little as 20-25 hours! 

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Originally Posted by Ahzari 

Hey guys,

 

I own and love my Denon D7000 and from reading the threads regarding comparisons of the HD650s and the Denons, I come across the feeling that they are pretty similar, can anyone summarize the benefits of the HD650 over the 7000s, is it even worth it to invest in the Sens as a open phone? I know they are supposed to sound pretty warm and that they are open phones while the Denons are closed... I guess the big question is are the sound signatures different enough to merit having both of them and enjoying them for different genres or are they both just all around good headphones. I have read a comparison thread but still couldn't get a good consensus if any headfi'ers have a good observation it would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks.

Absolutely! They are my 2 favorite phones by far. If your a fan of the d7000 sound sig, then I'm sure you'll love the senns. They are certainly different enough to own both though IMO. The senns are less bassy - but still warm and musical. They are obviously much more open sounding and give a great 3D, holographic image, even more so than the denons. This all depends on synergy of course. Some amps prefer the denons, other ones prefer the senns.

As far as music, I find the denons are definitely the best for fun modern music like pop ie top 40 and the senns, although very universal, are best with more acoustic, classical, Jazz, Indie ie Jack johnson.  

Also I find the senns are by far the most comfortable can I have ever owned and scale beautifully.

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Originally Posted by Silent One 

At least you gave 'em a chance. I've seen headphones get da boot here on HF with as little as 20-25 hours! 

 

I may be guilty of this as I've only listened to the borrowed pair of D7000 for about 5-6 hours over the past couple of days, and maybe 30-40 hours total previously.  Maybe my impressions will change as I get used to them, though I may only have a pair for another week or so depending on when the head-fier I borrowed them from is ready to exchange our headphones back to each other. 

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Originally Posted by daigo 

You might have me mixed up with Horio, who brought the vinyl source last year (which was excellent).  My set up was briefly set up by someone to get a quick listen when he tracked me down to ask me for it.  I did enjoy your D7000 out of your Benchmark DAC1 at the meet last year, shane55.  

 

 

GAAH!! I am soooooo sorry. What can I say, it's been a year and I'm obviously addle-brained. My most sincere apologies for mixing you up. And you remembered my setup... agh. How embarrassing.   I owe you a beer. 
 

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Originally Posted by shane55 

GAAH!! I am soooooo sorry. What can I say, it's been a year and I'm obviously addle-brained. My most sincere apologies for mixing you up. And you remembered my setup... agh. How embarrassing.   I owe you a beer. 
 

 

No worries, your signature jogged my memory.  Other than ironbut's reel set up and with Doc's bottlehead amp set ups with the K1000 and with HD600's, I think I spent the most time listening to your D7000's.  I was really tempted to buy a pair again at the time as they sounded excellent out of the DAC1 with a computer as a source, but decided to buy a pair of customs instead. 

@Ahzari:  Yeah, we're referring to last year's and this upcoming bay area head-fi meets.  Sorry for the thread jack!