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For the ones with the Clip+ rockboxed, get this: JUST FORGET IT. The original Sansa firmware gives a better sound with these IEMs. TIGHTER bass and BETTER treble. It's a very noticeable difference to my ears. Oh boy, have I figured this out earlier...! Whole new sensation, treble's better now and WHAT a bass!!! atsmile.gif (rockbox distorts at these bass levels and highs sound really bizarre with these IEMs, thats why I did not like them much before). Can't wait to try them out on a Cowon tomorrow ; )

 

NOTE: for the UM3X I prefer the sound of rockbox, no way. So you have to find the perfect marriage for your EPH-100. Fortunately rockbox allows you to go to the original Sansa firmware, so you can compare them and take your own conclusions. For me, nomore rockbox for the EPH100s.


Edited by miow - 2/3/12 at 6:23pm

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post #617 of 1854
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

For the ones with the Clip+ rockboxed, get this: JUST FORGET IT. The original Cli+ firmware gives a much better sound with these IEMs. More bass and BETTER treble. It's a night and day difference to my ears. Oh boy, have I figured this out earlier...! Whole new sensation, treble's great now and WHAT a bass!!! atsmile.gif (rockbox distorts at these bass levels and the treble is really weird with these IEMs, thats why I did not like it much before). Can't wait to try them out on a Cowon tomorrow ; )



Oh you are such a trouble maker.. wink_face.gif

 

And i was wondering how someone could be so upset with the treble. Sounded so fine to me with X1060 & even better  with Essence STX card. In fact as well as greater sub bass the Essence STX gave sense of increased sound stage & airiness - Memoirs Of Geisha OST sounds particularly brilliant.

 

I will be watching your signature for any signs of movement ...

 


 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Thanks guys. If these don't work, I'm not sure I can keep them.

 



Don't give up mate as i got the impression you really loving the IEM's sound wise.

 

I have yet another suggestion for you. Get hold of the Tips used on Monster Miles Davis TRUMPETS. Same driver design so should fit like a glove.

 

I have no idea how to source these but they look sooooo comfortable that i would be very tempted to try them out. I emailed Monster but no reply confused_face%281%29.gif

 

Maybe you can chase this up for yourself & others. I would really appreciate it if you got a result

 

 

 

MonstertrumpetsvEPH100.jpeg

 

 


Edited by archy121 - 2/3/12 at 4:17pm
post #618 of 1854

Eureka! I think I may have found the solution to my vacuum seal issue by using the large Meelec M6 triple flange tips (well, tip. I can't find the other redface.gif). Until I order a new set of tips, I'll be using one side stock, the other side triple flange.

 

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Originally Posted by miow View Post

For the ones with the Clip+ rockboxed, get this: JUST FORGET IT. The original Sansa firmware gives a better sound with these IEMs. More bass and BETTER treble. It's a very noticeable difference to my ears. Oh boy, have I figured this out earlier...! Whole new sensation, treble's better now and WHAT a bass!!! atsmile.gif (rockbox distorts at these bass levels and the treble sounds really bizarre with these IEMs, thats why I did not like it much before). Can't wait to try them out on a Cowon tomorrow ; )

 

NOTE: for the UM3X I prefer the sound of rockbox, no way. So you have to find the perfect marriage for your IEM. Fortunately rockbox allow you to go to the original Sansa firmware.


I imagine you'l be raising the score again rolleyes.gif

 

post #619 of 1854

Nope, this score  is fair as the UM3X treble is better. If they had the same treble quality, I would give them the 9.5, but it's not the case. : ) Treble is better without rockbox (RB really modifies it in a way I don't like), but still not at the same level of the UM3X and SM3.

 

I'm glad you have fixed your vacuum issue, man normal_smile%20.gif


Edited by miow - 2/3/12 at 8:14pm
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Monday, my friend, monday....mine was shipped today.

 

 

 

After they reply this yesterday:

 

 

 

 



Ah well I suppose that's not too bad.... I just really want to hear these things!

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I just really want to hear these things!


lol atsmile.gif

 

post #622 of 1854
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In my opinion they are definitely NOT better than the GR07s. The both perform very well at this price-point and are equally proficient on a technical basis.

 

I'm not sure what sort of metal you or Miow listen to, but for my tastes the Yamahas are far too warm and laid back to present speed and aggression (two things often associated with metal) in a convincing way. To my ears metal is best conveyed with crispness and bite, words I'd never use to describe the Yamahas. Yes, they are more three-dimesional sounding than the vsonics, and yes they have better separation... but are these really things that you're looking for in metal? I can't speak for you, but I know that I'm not.

 

I disagree that the Yams have better mids, though I do hear them as beng noticeably more forward. They're more liquid in nature and are supported by softer treble, which coupled with imactful bass creates a warmer signature. The GR07s are altogether more balanced, with no particular frequency standing out from the rest. They handle all genres well, but truly excel in none. In contrast, the EPH-100 are not nearly as versatile, but truly excel with electronic music.

 

Finally I'll say that although the EPH-100 win easily with edm, and the GR07s are the kings of versatility, the FXT90s beat both with metal. 

 



Cool! Because I have to use some in-ear in my work "open space" 3 voices, and 1 radio at the same time ...... If i use a iem with a signature more colder and more treble, it  hurt my brain, after some time, so I been used most time, a mere cheap warmth and bass iem.

But of course, also like very much to hear these colder iem at night, in the quiet of house, and more voice\acoutics tracks.

From what you say, should be a fantastic signature for me (warmth, neutral treble, detail and 3D effect).

 

From my understanding will always be an iem, much less stressful than the GR07 that foreshadow some Sss's for my taste.

thx


Edited by pack21 - 2/3/12 at 6:36pm
post #623 of 1854
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Eureka! I think I may have found the solution to my vacuum seal issue by using the large Meelec M6 triple flange tips (well, tip. I can't find the other redface.gif). Until I order a new set of tips, 



False alarm. I'm considering punching small holes in the sides of the tips to allow some air in.

post #624 of 1854
As far as the Monster Trumpet tips, I think it would be best to call them, I keep meaning to do so, but forget to every day. That is how I scored the beats solo cable with the control talk to use with my TMA-1s (before AIAIAI came out with their own). The rep on the phone took down the cc info and shipping address and I had the cable in my hand about a week later.
I still intend to get the monster tips and will post my findings once I do, but if someone beats me to it: please let us know the good and the bad.
post #625 of 1854
As far as the Monster Trumpet tips, I think it would be best to call them, I keep meaning to do so, but forget to every day. That is how I scored the beats solo cable with the control talk to use with my TMA-1s (before AIAIAI came out with their own). The rep on the phone took down the cc info and shipping address and I had the cable in my hand about a week later.
I still intend to get the monster tips and will post my findings once I do, but if someone beats me to it: please let us know the good and the bad.
post #626 of 1854
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False alarm. I'm considering punching small holes in the sides of the tips to allow some air in.



thats what I did, eased the pressure with ease.

post #627 of 1854

 

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I still intend to get the monster tips and will post my findings once I do, but if someone beats me to it: please let us know the good and the bad.


I'm in the UK so if someone like you in the US (?) could chase this up it would be wonderful.

The Monster supertips packs are rather expensive ($40) so I'm hoping they can be had in a smaller packing such as the sampler.

 


 

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Nope, this score  is fair as the UM3X treble is better. If they had the same treble quality (or close), I would give them the 9.5, but it's not the case. : ) Treble is better without rockbox (RB really modifies it in a way I don't like), but still not at the same level of the UM3X and SM3.


 

Oh drat. Looks like I was hoping for a miracle rolleyes.gif


Edited by archy121 - 2/3/12 at 5:07pm
post #628 of 1854

How goes EPH amp?

 

 

@Eke, pierces inside the opening tip, near the mesh with a pin heated with a lighter....just to never be covered by the pressure of the ears


Edited by pack21 - 2/3/12 at 5:15pm
post #629 of 1854

Ok, managed to equalize rockbox treble in such a way that it is now close to the sansa original firmware. Same for bass. It comes close now (but still not there). A/Bing them for about an hour now. I think most people will prefer it not rockboxed, since treble is more laid back (and still sounds more realistic), bass is tighter and mids are a bit less "agressive". It's really up to personal preference. Just be careful with rockbox, it can really make your EPH-100 treble sound weird. Man, was I wrong about this treble...! It is good.


Edited by miow - 2/3/12 at 8:03pm
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I've had the eph-100 for a few days now and enjoying them a lot, but thought I'd add my perspective from a GR07 fan... just to clarify, I don't consider myself an audiophile but appreciate good earphones and higher bit-rates. I've used sony 888lp for best part of the last 15 years, loved them, but bass lacking, they are to hard to get now, so got in the IEM game over the last 12 months, no going back now, its a fun hobby :-)
 
eph-100:
- lot of fun
- no sibilance I can tell
- bass heavy, great punch and rumble, but a bit more than I would like for everyday use, fun when in the mood
- Hear every instrument great and vocals stand out sometimes better than GR07, but not always
- Better isolation
 
Its just a few days so I still need to burn in the eph-100, which the GR07 really needs, but I don't see any contest, GR07 is the best for me. The bass is perfect, especially sub-bass, if the song has it the GR07 gives a suprising good punch, but doesn't over emphasis on songs where bass is lacking, the eph-100 tries to hard sometimes becoming distracting to the music, but it never distorts its, music is always very clear,
 
I see mentions on various post's on how the GR07 is boring. It's not. I felt the same way when I first got them, but after burn in and keeping them awhile, I've grown to appreciate how great they sound, I forget I am wearing IEM's listening to them, now I would never give them up,
 
Miow, I agree with a lot of your findings, but GR07 is not lifeless in comparison, after the heavy bass of the eph-100, the GR07 is like a breath of fresh air, but I think that's my personal taste. Not a criticism of the eph-100, I'm definitely keeping them as they are a lot of fun, I will use them a lot, but if I was forced to choose only one, its the GR07 no contest,
 
a bit off topic, I also tried the JVC FXT90 but did not like them much, GR07 and EPH-100 are by far better I think. The FXT90 bass seem poor to me, coming from the GR07 initially, they just do not have the same overall sound quality, but I find it hard to explain why. I've tried a good few IEM but time to take a break, the GR07 and EPH-100 are both fantastic, all I want for now,
 
 
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