Yamaha EPH-100
Feb 5, 2015 at 10:32 PM Post #4,261 of 4,690
  After 3 amazing years, my EPH-100 finally bit the dust. There's something loose in the Y-split housing as the left earbud won't play sound unless I hold the cable coming out of the Y in a perfect position. Does this sound fixable?
 
If not, I love these earbuds so I'm probably going to grab another pair. But I figured I'd take a quick look around at other options first. Anyone have any recs for similar sounding earbuds worth taking a look at?

Sorry to hear that; it happens to me too like the left side had volume reduction to 10%  but I managed to fix it by magnetizing the left side with the right one. But the Y-split isn't loose as you described though. Mine has been nearly 3 years and still working fine. 
 
Speaking of another pair you looking for, I believe everybody says that the Duoza is one good upgrade to the EPH-100 since its soundstage and clarity significantly bigger but heard the bass isn't as deep - but ironically I don't have that yet. I happen to buy Yamaha's successor EPH-M200 but it didn't sound as good and the fit is much worse. Then I chose the Dunu DN-2000 ($300) and that's real upgrade to the EPH-100, to me, since the soundstage and separation is much much better, can be worn over-the-ear like the EPH-100 does, and deeper bass though it's not as impactful as EPH-100. Also, I find DN-2000 has brighter treble that isn't too piercing ( I notice this after having it for quite some time) and doesn't have the lower treble emphasis that EPH-100 does.
 
  Newegg has Klipsch X11s for $99 lately. Different fit, but similar sound.
 

 
I just checked and it's back to $199. I've heard the X11 is similar to X10 and I do have the X10 and it doesn't sound as dynamic, or 'wide' as the EPH-100. Those who are not used with BA-sound will find it tiny sounding. X10, to me, is more like laid-back, warm, and somewhat dark. Bass is deep going all the way sub-bass and it's main of the show but it's not as impactful as the EPH-100 (you know how the Yammy has the yummy-boomy-bass that doesn't offend). When played loud, the mid can be grainy and its treble rolls off and doesn't shimmer as the EPH-100, though both has the slightly 'dark' nature (not bright, with emphasize on bass). The X10 loses on soundstage tho, it's average when played at normal volume but it gets noticeably intimate when played loud.  Separation is harder to distinguish cuz the lack of shimmer. X10 (or X11) isn't designed to play loud but the EPH-100 can be played loud as much as one desire, definitely fun factor. 
 
But to be honest, after having 24 earphones in my collections ( yes, I have 24! maybe more), none of them has the sound that is as close as EPH-100 signature. If you like its sound, stick with it. It's as good as you can get.
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 12:24 AM Post #4,262 of 4,690
Excellent post, Gandasaputra. I almost went for the DN-1000s for a possible upgrade but you know what, you're right. I like the Yamahas so much that there's little to gain by fooling around with other options. Already ordered a new pair. Thanks for the help!
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 1:50 AM Post #4,264 of 4,690
  Different strokes, I guess. I returned my Yamahas after a couple of weeks. (Returned X11s also, to be fair.)

What?!?! you don't like the Yammy? well, I noticed your complain bout the X11 in one X11 thread. I cannot say X11/X10 is a bad earphone but the S4, I think, is bad and offending. Well, not that bad. I've tried worse one like Sony's XBA-30. But X10 / X11 is a laid-back and warm earphone which has good emphasis on sub-bass, textured bass, and rolled off on the high. It's good when you want to listen it in easy-way and relaxed mood, but not when seeking for adrenaline-pumping state, like listening at loud volume. 
 
  Excellent post, Gandasaputra. I almost went for the DN-1000s for a possible upgrade but you know what, you're right. I like the Yamahas so much that there's little to gain by fooling around with other options. Already ordered a new pair. Thanks for the help!
 

Once you like the Yamaha, you can't go back 
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. But if you've got funds and wish to explore for more different sound signature (not for upgrades, let's say EPH-100 is unique on its own), the DN-2000 definitely worth a try. Carbo basso is good one too.
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 5:00 AM Post #4,265 of 4,690
Once you like the Yamaha, you can't go back :D . But if you've got funds and wish to explore for more different sound signature (not for upgrades, let's say EPH-100 is unique on its own), the DN-2000 definitely worth a try. Carbo basso is good one too.


My EPH100 has broken too and I have spent a while trying to find an upgrade rather than buy it again.
After researching few IEM's including Duoza I'm left with ATH-CRK9 Ltd as best possible upgrade option.

Did you consider this before going with DN-2000 ?


Point of opinion..

Umm, I think I qualify to comment :D

I've had all three of those iems. The 9LTD is better than EPH100 in stereo separation, sound stage and frequency balance, but the CKR10 is slightly worse than EPH100 in separation and sound stage, but similar frequency balance. 9LTD bass is much tighter and more detailed than EPH100, and mids and highs are more detailed and balanced due to tight bass. Overall 9LTD is great for Trance, better than CKR10 and EPH100..
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 5:29 AM Post #4,266 of 4,690
If you want to upgrade from EPH-100 while keeping similar bass levels its simple, DN-1000, better detail, clarity, wider soundstage it's not really a fair fight. You would be dealing with a brighter tonality in the mid and high range. DN-2000 is a nice hybrid, especially for those who admire a balanced sound, though the little brother DN-1000 keeps the bass levels on a level that can be considered similar to EPH-100 quantity.  EPH-100 is good, but something like DN-1000 will show the Yamaha's limited potential quite quickly.
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM Post #4,267 of 4,690
But can the DN-1000 match the 3D stereo separation that is EPH100s biggest attracting point ?

I believe it's the ability of the eph100 to do great separation in the sidewards movement between the channels that lends it so well to Trance/EDM genre.
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 9:28 AM Post #4,268 of 4,690
But can the DN-1000 match the 3D stereo separation that is EPH100s biggest attracting point ?

I believe it's the ability of the eph100 to do great separation in the sidewards movement between the channels that lends it do well to Trance/EDM genre.



I think you're talking about imaging? When a sample moves across/up/down the left/right channels, or simiar, a good sense of the image shifting around the stage? I can tell the Dunu is stronger technically in instrument separation by quite a margin and the imaging will be an upgrade. I think you would find many more upsides to the Dunu. Try and demo them sometime, or if you're willing you can trust my judgement and go ahead. You would be pleased with the Dunu, its a clean upgrade. If not continue with your other options. 
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 6:04 PM Post #4,270 of 4,690
My EPH100 has broken too and I have spent a while trying to find an upgrade rather than buy it again.
After researching few IEM's including Duoza I'm left with ATH-CRK9 Ltd as best possible upgrade option.

Did you consider this before going with DN-2000 ?


Point of opinion..

I wasn't interested with the CKR9 because of the size, which look uncomfortable, and the design which is impossible to be worn over-the-ear. I dislike straight-down wearing earphones because of microphonic issues, one exception is the FXT90 which I think has the best supple cable in my collection. CKR9 look huge and I was afraid it'd be as uncomfortable as the IM70, which is definitely HUGE earphone for dual-dynamics. More importantly, the supplied ATH stock tips are horrible, which I had from IM70 and the IM03, so having to tip-rolling for an expensive earphone is pain in the ass and definitely not worth of the time / money. I hate it when buying one earphone and I have to tip rolling / buy secondary ear tips so I have to spend extra bucks for the already expensive earphone. On the other hand, the EPH-100 doesn't need tip-rolling and the stock tips are sufficient unless if I lost them.
 
As comfort is my #1 priority, next to the sound, I choose compact-sized earphones that have similar "straight-barrel" shape like the EPH-100 and I happen to choose the DN-2000; yet, it was my interest to try a hybrid earphones. But I'm happy with the DN-2000 :) Amazingly, the DN-2000 doesn't need top-rolling and fits comfortably with the provided stock tips!
 
edit: HOW DID YOU BREAK THE EPH-100?!?!? poor yammy :frowning2:
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 9:01 PM Post #4,271 of 4,690
One of the channels went -probably due to abuse on my behalf.
I think I was just bored of the good thing and stopped treating the iem's with the care I used to.

You have given me something to think about with the CKR9 Ltd being wear down only.
Maybe ear loops will help when jogging but it's going to be far from ideal. Damn it.

I wish DN-2000 had more bass as I'm a sucker for deep reverberating textured bass. Something CKR probably does better.
It worries me that DN will be like the Tenore really nice smooth and neutral sound but just not having that oomph to make hip hop or Trance music come alive.

Also DN rather ugly don't you think ?

Build quality seems quite poor as reports say they easily become dented and scratched. I think eph suffered that too but was not as an ugly shape to start with.


I really don't want to have to buy the eph100 again as it has its flaws such as bass without hardly any texture or detail.
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 9:21 PM Post #4,272 of 4,690
Hm since your concern is the bass quality, ill try analyze the bass between the dn-2000 and eph-100. i dont listen to trance much but metal n rock, send me some of your favorite so ill try my best to describe. As i know, eph-100 is deep reverbating bass but lack of texture and detail while the dn-2000 has detailed and deep textured one but lack of boominess or oomph as you said. Its like a trade off but hope my assumptions are correct.
 
Feb 8, 2015 at 5:20 PM Post #4,273 of 4,690
 

I think you're talking about imaging? When a sample moves across/up/down the left/right channels, or simiar, a good sense of the image shifting around the stage? I can tell the Dunu is stronger technically in instrument separation by quite a margin and the imaging will be an upgrade. I think you would find many more upsides to the Dunu. Try and demo them sometime, or if you're willing you can trust my judgement and go ahead. You would be pleased with the Dunu, its a clean upgrade. If not continue with your other options. 

 
+1
 
I love Yamaha eph-100 ...and Dunu DN-1000.
 
Dunu is superior.
 
Amplified improves much more than yamaha amplified. I use iBasso D6 with topkit like-tube.
 
I hope this can help you.
 
Feb 11, 2015 at 8:03 AM Post #4,274 of 4,690
Hey guys,
 
I need your help, please.
 
Do these look fake to you?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-EPH-100-In-Ear-only-Headphones-Silver-Black-/231450982547?pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Headphones&hash=item35e38db893
 
My suspicion lies with the tips...
 
What about these?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-EPH-100-In-Ear-only-Headphones-Silver-Black-/281591010308?pt=UK_MP3_Player_Accessories_Headphones_Earphones&hash=item419021d404
 
Any chance of somehow identifying fake from real before purchasing?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 3:12 PM Post #4,275 of 4,690
So being the idiot that I am, I tried pulling off the temporary ear tips I placed on the eph-100 and accidently removed the whole metal piece on the left side where you can see the inside of the eph-100 and....
 
THE WIRES CAME APART from the board
 
So I see a orange wire and a green wire. Could anyone inform me where to solder each wire? I can't believe I did something this dumb. 
 

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