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post #3526 of 4016
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

Where can I get these in Australia?

Exeltek

http://www.exeltek.com.au/yamaha-eph-100-in-ear-headphones-earphones
post #3527 of 4016
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Thanks a lot. Is exeltek reliable? Do you think I'll see an improvement from the GR07BEs. I'm looking for an IEM I can wear down and use at the gym. 

post #3528 of 4016
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

Thanks a lot. Is exeltek reliable? Do you think I'll see an improvement from the GR07BEs. I'm looking for an IEM I can wear down and use at the gym. 

Yes, they're reliable. When I owned both GR07 MK2 and the Yamaha they're were pretty competitive against each other, couldn't call it a direct upgrade. You need be careful with EPH-100 as there's many reports of the right side cutting out temporarily due to moisture or sweat, we never found out why, but it's riddled through the thread last year. Some are fine others went through 2-3 pairs.
post #3529 of 4016
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Yes, they're reliable. When I owned both GR07 MK2 and the Yamaha they're were pretty competitive against each other, couldn't call it a direct upgrade. You need be careful with EPH-100 as there's many reports of the right side cutting out temporarily due to moisture or sweat, we never found out why, but it's riddled through the thread last year. Some are fine others went through 2-3 pairs.

Crap, if I'm at the gym it might get sweaty and wet at times. I go 4 times a week so its bound to happen. My RE400s are my current gym IEMs but they're not so great for the EDM I listen to at the gym. I might just use the GR07BEs for the gym or my UE900s. I just wanted an excuse to buy another pair I guess.

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post



Yes, they're reliable. When I owned both GR07 MK2 and the Yamaha they're were pretty competitive against each other, couldn't call it a direct upgrade. You need be careful with EPH-100 as there's many reports of the right side cutting out temporarily due to moisture or sweat, we never found out why, but it's riddled through the thread last year. Some are fine others went through 2-3 pairs.

 



Yep I had mine for over half a year and they never went wrong once!
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Fairly new EPH-100 owner here...I purchased a pair a few weeks back but I was suspicious of them.  Today I received a new pair and I am now fairly certain that the other pair are fake.  There was a small convo about it over on joker's multi-iem thread which I've pasted below:

 

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Originally Posted by garcsa View Post
 

Hi there, 

Anybody heard , about fake Yamaha EPH-100? 

 

 

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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

I couldn't find anything specific but I suspect I may have one (purchased used) - there's something odd about it with the finish and strain reliefs so I'm curious if that is the case.  I just ordered another from a different seller with full retail packaging and will compare the two and post impressions here.

 

To follow up on this as I've received my new pair, I think what I originally got was indeed a fake.  Even at a short distance they look almost identical, but I've got an eye for detail and there was just something off even comparing them to pictures others have taken.  I don't know if there was a change in how the EPH-100 is made but I couldn't find anything on that.  I've got a small comparison so others can see what I mean:

 

 
I placed a red F next to the suspected fake pair - here are a few points in the visual comparison:
 
- In the first picture, the nozzles look different but I think that is just a fingerpint :p - size wise they are pretty identical.
- The aluminum shell appears to be CNC routed as per usual but the grooves are more apparent.  The real one seems more finished...if you look very closely you can see that it has very fine grooves from when it was made but it appears to have been polished smooth afterwards.
- The strain reliefs are a bit smaller/softer on the alleged fake, and the cable has a slightly smaller diameter and is a bit softer with the real one being stiffer.  TRS plugs and y-split look identical.
- The printing is a bit lighter, slightly off center in the case of the logo.
- The driver mesh seems to be woven and more transparent so you can see the reflection of the driver beneath on the fake.  The real one which appears to be a single perforated cover with the driver not visible beneath, so most likely the drivers are completely different.  The driver mesh is also a bit off/crooked when viewed at an angle.
 
I don't have any in depth listening results at this point, but after trying the real pair for about 15 minutes it seems apparent this is what they should sound like.  I'll try to do an A-B comparison later today but I'm sending the other pair back tomorrow.  It's a shame, but my advice is to always buy from a reputable dealer or head-fier, especially if you get anything used.
post #3532 of 4016
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

Fairly new EPH-100 owner here...I purchased a pair a few weeks back but I was suspicious of them.  Today I received a new pair and I am now fairly certain that the other pair are fake.  There was a small convo about it over on joker's multi-iem thread which I've pasted below:

I'm not convinced at all that's it's a fake. I've seen other comparison between fake & original elsewhere , and usually the difference are more obvious. 

Also, it's seem in your case , you can't tell which one is "fake", without looking at both model at same time.

You notice small differences , and then ? I'm sure you'd be able to notice small differences between left & right in your "original" model, which would make your comparison with the "fake", moot.

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do these need ear-guides in order to be worn looped around the ear, or do they

stay put without the guides?

post #3534 of 4016
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post
 

I'm not convinced at all that's it's a fake. I've seen other comparison between fake & original elsewhere , and usually the difference are more obvious. 

Also, it's seem in your case , you can't tell which one is "fake", without looking at both model at same time.

You notice small differences , and then ? I'm sure you'd be able to notice small differences between left & right in your "original" model, which would make your comparison with the "fake", moot.

It may indeed be the case that there is a different variation of this model, I don't discredit that possibly...but I couldn't find any info on that.  I also couldn't find any other reports about fake batches either, so a) people don't realize it or b) it's a false allegation on my part.  I am purely reporting on my own experience.  Perhaps I should rephrase my post, but A-B testing a bit more this evening I am still convinced that the driver itself is different not just in appearances.  Basically, testing side by side using sine sweeps make the differences readily apparent.  I was saying that from a distance, they look identical but up close you can see the differences...still doesn't prove that is is really fake, but it is suspect.  My cellphone camera is probably not the best at capturing this though, but the build quality I feel just isn't equal between the two.  The reason I got the second pair is because I noticed the physical differences between pictures I'd seen and some discrepancies in the sound signature based on what has been measured and reported on by others.  Physically, Left/Right housing are identical with one another on each respective pair.

 

Again, just my opinion and observation.


Edited by modulor - 12/11/13 at 8:10pm
post #3535 of 4016
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post

do these need ear-guides in order to be worn looped around the ear, or do they
stay put without the guides?

They can be worn over the ear or straight down without hooks.
post #3536 of 4016
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post
 

do these need ear-guides in order to be worn looped around the ear, or do they

stay put without the guides?

 

You dont need ear-guides with them, they are very snug. Provided you use the right tips.

 

For most wearing them down is good enough.

post #3537 of 4016

Dis anyone customize them to fit in the ear perfectly? I am tjinking of doing so, as they are worth it soundwise, but like to hear some experiences if any,

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If, by customize you mean mod them for a better fit, then no, they have no fit problems.
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Yep the stock tips fit most ears perfectly.

post #3540 of 4016

I did mean the molded plastic wich is a copy of your inner ear. There is is shop here selling anything for People with hear Problems, and they offer the possibility of customizing your in ears with the molded plastic, wich causes a perfect fit, and probably even improve an already great in ear ?

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