Yamaha EPH-100 - Page 165

Yes I do not have the EPH 100 anymore... A lot of things were good on them such as the bass, seperation etc. but I did not like the treble and overall I just prefer my Shure SE215 even though they are technically worse the overall sound is easier to listen to. I was thinking about the GR07 but tbh if they are more of a bright analytical headphone etc. compared to the Shures then maybe I should just keep the Shures for now.

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Originally Posted by nicholars 

Yes I do not have the EPH 100 anymore... A lot of things were good on them such as the bass, seperation etc. but I did not like the treble and overall I just prefer my Shure SE215 even though they are technically worse the overall sound is easier to listen to. I was thinking about the GR07 but tbh if they are more of a bright analytical headphone etc. compared to the Shures then maybe I should just keep the Shures for now.

I had fit issues with the Yamaha, but loved the sound. Wound up sending the Yamaha's back. Your mentioning of the 215 brings me back to when I had them (my first IEM) and I recently longed for the 215 again. In hindsight, they sounded good to me and the fit and isolation was very good.

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Originally Posted by FieldingMellish 

 

I had fit issues with the Yamaha, but loved the sound. Wound up sending the Yamaha's back. Your mentioning of the 215 brings me back to when I had them (my first IEM) and I recently longed for the 215 again. In hindsight, they sounded good to me and the fit and isolation was very good.

Yeh the shures are not like amazing mind blowing sound quality but they do everything pretty well and the overall sound is nice whilst being non fatiguing and easy to listen to pretty much any genre on them....They are not amazing for "critical listening" but for just putting them on and enjoying the music they are pretty damn good for £65.... Also the cable is good and they seem durable. Maybe I will just stick with the Shures until I can afford something significantly better. Its difficult with IEM because the retailers will not take them back due to hygiene etc.

The treble on the EPH100 lacks the definition of a UM3X or SM3, or a CAL or a D2000. It's just that, its somewhat "dry" and dull. It's like if you're hearing an excelent jazz recording with a Denon D2000 + JDSLabs C421 with a FiiO cable or a silver cable (but worse. lol)

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Originally Posted by miow 

The treble on the EPH100 lacks the definition of a UM3X or SM3, or a CAL or a D2000. It's just that, its somewhat "dry" and dull. It's like if you're hearing an excelent jazz recording with a Denon D2000 + JDSLabs C421 with a FiiO cable or a silver cable (but worse. lol)

To me the treble on the EPH-100 was fine in terms of amount (would not want any more though) and it was also pretty smooth.... The problem with it was that it just sounded strange and very feeble..... for example with cymbal on my HD650 or shures it sounds like a normal person hitting a proper cymbal with a drumstick *TSSSHHHH* whereas on the EPH-100 it sounds like a toddler going "meh" and hitting a cymbol with a plastic spoon *tsh*. Shame really because other than the feeble treble they were extremely good, I really liked them a lot except for the treble.

Love these little things. Better than the Sony XBA-1 for sure. 

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Originally Posted by nicholars 

 

To me the treble on the EPH-100 was fine in terms of amount (would not want any more though) and it was also pretty smooth.... The problem with it was that it just sounded strange and very feeble..... for example with cymbal on my HD650 or shures it sounds like a normal person hitting a proper cymbal with a drumstick *TSSSHHHH* whereas on the EPH-100 it sounds like a toddler going "meh" and hitting a cymbol with a plastic spoon *tsh*. Shame really because other than the feeble treble they were extremely good, I really liked them a lot except for the treble.

Exactly. This was the best explanation I've ever found to describe the EPH treble. lol.

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Originally Posted by nicholars 

 

To me the treble on the EPH-100 was fine in terms of amount (would not want any more though) and it was also pretty smooth.... The problem with it was that it just sounded strange and very feeble..... for example with cymbal on my HD650 or shures it sounds like a normal person hitting a proper cymbal with a drumstick *TSSSHHHH* whereas on the EPH-100 it sounds like a toddler going "meh" and hitting a cymbol with a plastic spoon *tsh*. Shame really because other than the feeble treble they were extremely good, I really liked them a lot except for the treble.

But the trebble is  unfatiguing too.  I found that the airy soundstage + good isolation + very forgiving highs, seems a winning combination to relax. I think these are the perfect headphone while doing some works on computer . Well, the comfort is not perfect though.

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi 

 

But the trebble is  unfatiguing too.  I found that the airy soundstage + good isolation + very forgiving highs, seems a winning combination to relax. I think these are the perfect headphone while doing some works on computer . Well, the comfort is not perfect though.

If I had the money to own loads of pairs of headphones I would have probably kept them for electronic music because they are good for that and the treble sounds good with most of that genre.... The bass, soundstage and seperation are awesome.... However I need a single pair of all rounders to use when out and about and for that purpose the Shure se215, although technically not as good as the Yamaha are better, more natural sounding all rounders and also even less fatiguing on the ears / more comfortable than the Yamahas.

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Originally Posted by nicholars 

 

If I had the money to own loads of pairs of headphones I would have probably kept them for electronic music because they are good for that and the treble sounds good with most of that genre.... The bass, soundstage and seperation are awesome.... However I need a single pair of all rounders to use when out and about and for that purpose the Shure se215, although technically not as good as the Yamaha are better, more natural sounding all rounders and also even less fatiguing on the ears / more comfortable than the Yamahas.

What kind of music you find worse on the yamaha eph-100 ? I guess I do not care too much of "naturalness", as  long as it is enjoyable to a certain extent.

I think the eph-100 are great with ambient. For electronic music, I'm sure there's better iems.

The separation is still one of the best I've heard along with the UM3X.
 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi 

What kind of music you find worse on the yamaha eph-100 ? I guess I do not care too much of "naturalness", as  long as it is enjoyable to a certain extent.

I think the eph-100 are great with ambient. For electronic music, I'm sure there's better iems.

Hmm well anything with vocals is not great compared the the shures and some treble sounds thin... They were good overall, especially the bass and the presentation but the treble just annoyed me. If they had better treble I would have kept them.

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Originally Posted by nicholars 

 

Hmm well anything with vocals is not great compared the the shures and some treble sounds thin... They were good overall, especially the bass and the presentation but the treble just annoyed me. If they had better treble I would have kept them.

I listen mostly to instrumentals, this might be why I'm not so bothered by the treble.

They could be racing tires from Matchbox cars.