Yamaha EPH-100 - Page 162

Originally Posted by stozzer123 

there is almost no point in comparing iems with full size headphones.  Sorry to sound like a hard ass but its a pet peeve of mine when it happens.

Originally Posted by H20Fidelity 


Once you hear GRO7 or TF10 you can notice the difference straight away, there's a big gap missing where mid bass should be. Trust me, EPH-100 have a slight mid bass hump.
I can only suggest what I've heard, we don't want to mislead you.

Originally Posted by stozzer123 

there is almost no point in comparing iems with full size headphones.  Sorry to sound like a hard ass but its a pet peeve of mine when it happens.

Originally Posted by nicholars 

How is the bass on these? (the t50rp)

I read they are quite bass light...

Maybe you can mod them to have good bass?

I want some with sub bass not mid bass like the HD650... WIll the T50rp be suitable?

Originally Posted by H20Fidelity 


Once you hear GRO7 or TF10 you can notice the difference straight away, there's a big gap missing where mid bass should be. Trust me, EPH-100 have a slight mid bass hump.
I can only suggest what I've heard, we don't want to mislead you.

Originally Posted by AstroTurf 


Here is just one thread of many on the Fostex T50RP...
http://www.head-fi.org/t/618659/fostex-t50rp-incremental-mods-and-measurements
Enjoy, Jim

Originally Posted by nicholars 

Hmmm interesting thanks for the link...

So when modded do they have good sub bass?

I dont find the HD650 have enough bass so I want to swap them for some headphones with more sub bass

Originally Posted by nicholars 

Hmmm I am not sure abotu that because someone says "out of the box the bass is feeble" but then the graphs modded seem a lot better....

Do you think I will be dissapointed with these (bass) if I like D2000 levels of bass?

Originally Posted by pinoyman 


true.
this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage.

Originally Posted by Gilly87 

SE215 have more forward, lush mids, better bass overall IMO. The EPH is more neutral sounding, not as warm, more balanced across the spectrum. The treble on the EPH100 is technically superior and probably better in just about every way than that of the SE215. The EPH100 sounds clearer and cleaner, with better soundstage and instrument separation, whereas the SE215 sounds bigger, fuller, and more powerful; the overall sound is more forward but soundstage is not bad. The EPH100 is faster, notes are better defined, but the overall sound is smaller, a compromise between BA and dynamic sound; SE215 can be bloated sometimes and misses details, but it is definitely a dynamic sound and feels bigger and more powerful than the EPH100. There is more distance between the music and you in the EPH100, which helps with clarity and separation but sacrifices on the fun factor, which the SE215 definitely delivers, at the risk of sounding like a "wall of sound" sometimes. That said, the soundstage on the 215s is definitely better, especially in depth, than entry level IEMs like CX300 and FA Eterna (the Eterna wins on width but overall the staging feels less noticeable; going from memory on this one so take with a grain of salt), but is nothing to write home about; the EPH100 has great placement and separation, and has an overall more noticeable soundstage than any IEM I've heard, including the W3.

 

IMO:

 

Shure SE215 = more engaging, more fun to listen to

EPH100 = more detailed and clear, mostly balanced sound, technically superior headphone

 

Don't take this to mean the EPH100 is neutral compared to other phones; it's not exceptionally colored, but the bass is boosted slightly and it's a touch warm.

 

The SE215 does mids and bass both REALLY well in my opinion; I prefer it for my own tastes despite recognizing the EPH100 as a technically superior phone. The bass on the SE215 responds fabulously to EQ and some serious rumble can be squeezed out of it with the right DAP + EQ.

 

What music would you be using them for?

Originally Posted by autumnholy 

I got this yamaha gem and also FXT90. FXT is already over 250 hours, EPH is around 50 hours. It's still immature to my ears for the yamaha.

 

JVC? Deep soundstage. Lighter bass. Sharper treble. Forward mids (but track dependent). The initial thickness of the sound changes after burn in. Could be due to my ears adjusting to them and/or EPH just have thicker mids.

 

EPH100 (impression after 50 hours)? Wide soundstage. Deep, punchy bass. Mids clear and laid back. Treble not as sharp as JVC. Waiting for it to open up because I tried listening to one after 300 hours. Feel different from mine.