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post #2416 of 4123
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

there is almost no point in comparing iems with full size headphones.  Sorry to sound like a hard ass but its a pet peeve of mine when it happens.

Agreed...

Two different animals altogether.

Jim
post #2417 of 4123
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Once you hear GRO7 or TF10 you can notice the difference straight away, there's a big gap missing where mid bass should be. Trust me, EPH-100 have a slight mid bass hump.
I can only suggest what I've heard, we don't want to mislead you. smile.gif

 

No problem you are probably correct then... I think I actually like a mid bass hump though.... I like a bit of a mid bass hump and then excellent sub bass... I would say the HD650 is maybe a bit excessive in this area though... I like the bass on the Yams and I wouldnt want any less bass... With EQ it is a pretty nice amount and you can have good quantity whilst still keeping decent quality. The midrange is good as well but the treble sounds a bit different then I am used to... I will give them some more "burn in" time and see if I adjust to it because I cannot see many other good headphones for less than £150 apart from the GR07 but if this has less bass and is brighter then that is no good.

post #2418 of 4123
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

there is almost no point in comparing iems with full size headphones.  Sorry to sound like a hard ass but its a pet peeve of mine when it happens.

i am trying to compare sound only especially from a wow-factor point of view,, simply put, which ones would you enjoy listening to straight from a laptop? Speaking about sound only...

post #2419 of 4123
Fostex T50RP

Highly tunable... To your taste.

And affordable too.

Jim
post #2420 of 4123

How is the bass on these? (the t50rp)

 

I read they are quite bass light...

 

Maybe you can mod them to have good bass?

 

I want some with sub bass not mid bass like the HD650... WIll the T50rp be suitable?

post #2421 of 4123
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

How is the bass on these? (the t50rp)

I read they are quite bass light...

Maybe you can mod them to have good bass?

I want some with sub bass not mid bass like the HD650... WIll the T50rp be suitable?

Here is just one thread of many on the Fostex T50RP...

http://www.head-fi.org/t/618659/fostex-t50rp-incremental-mods-and-measurements

Enjoy, Jim
post #2422 of 4123
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Once you hear GRO7 or TF10 you can notice the difference straight away, there's a big gap missing where mid bass should be. Trust me, EPH-100 have a slight mid bass hump.
I can only suggest what I've heard, we don't want to mislead you. smile.gif

 

According to the measurement from golden ears it doesn't seem that way though

 

http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?document_srl=8861&mid=GR_Earphones&sort_index=readed_count&order_type=desc

 

But I kinda agree, to my ears it does feel like there's a bit more mid-bass punch than rumble.

post #2423 of 4123
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Originally Posted by AstroTurf View Post


Here is just one thread of many on the Fostex T50RP...
http://www.head-fi.org/t/618659/fostex-t50rp-incremental-mods-and-measurements
Enjoy, Jim

 

Hmmm interesting thanks for the link...

 

So when modded do they have good sub bass?

 

I dont find the HD650 have enough bass so I want to swap them for some headphones with more sub bass

post #2424 of 4123
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Hmmm interesting thanks for the link...

So when modded do they have good sub bass?

I dont find the HD650 have enough bass so I want to swap them for some headphones with more sub bass

Well, Bone Stock they say 15 hz - 35 khz.

But the spec I like best can be found here:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/281431-REG/Fostex_T50_RP_T50RP_Studio_Headphones.html

The Price.

Jim
post #2425 of 4123

Hmmm I am not sure abotu that because someone says "out of the box the bass is feeble" but then the graphs modded seem a lot better....

 

Do you think I will be dissapointed with these (bass) if I like D2000 levels of bass?

post #2426 of 4123
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Hmmm I am not sure abotu that because someone says "out of the box the bass is feeble" but then the graphs modded seem a lot better....

Do you think I will be dissapointed with these (bass) if I like D2000 levels of bass?

Honestly, I do not know.

What I do know is this...

To modify your own headphones is very satisfying.

Jim

PS There maybe someone on that thread who could answer your question.
post #2427 of 4123
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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post


true.
this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage.

 

Soundstage? Hummm... Instrument separation? Yes.

post #2428 of 4123
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

SE215 have more forward, lush mids, better bass overall IMO. The EPH is more neutral sounding, not as warm, more balanced across the spectrum. The treble on the EPH100 is technically superior and probably better in just about every way than that of the SE215. The EPH100 sounds clearer and cleaner, with better soundstage and instrument separation, whereas the SE215 sounds bigger, fuller, and more powerful; the overall sound is more forward but soundstage is not bad. The EPH100 is faster, notes are better defined, but the overall sound is smaller, a compromise between BA and dynamic sound; SE215 can be bloated sometimes and misses details, but it is definitely a dynamic sound and feels bigger and more powerful than the EPH100. There is more distance between the music and you in the EPH100, which helps with clarity and separation but sacrifices on the fun factor, which the SE215 definitely delivers, at the risk of sounding like a "wall of sound" sometimes. That said, the soundstage on the 215s is definitely better, especially in depth, than entry level IEMs like CX300 and FA Eterna (the Eterna wins on width but overall the staging feels less noticeable; going from memory on this one so take with a grain of salt), but is nothing to write home about; the EPH100 has great placement and separation, and has an overall more noticeable soundstage than any IEM I've heard, including the W3.

 

IMO:

 

Shure SE215 = more engaging, more fun to listen to

EPH100 = more detailed and clear, mostly balanced sound, technically superior headphone

 

Don't take this to mean the EPH100 is neutral compared to other phones; it's not exceptionally colored, but the bass is boosted slightly and it's a touch warm.

 

The SE215 does mids and bass both REALLY well in my opinion; I prefer it for my own tastes despite recognizing the EPH100 as a technically superior phone. The bass on the SE215 responds fabulously to EQ and some serious rumble can be squeezed out of it with the right DAP + EQ.

 

What music would you be using them for?

 

I just compared A/Bing Shure 215 and EPH100, and I think this one is an accurate comparison, great!

post #2429 of 4123

I got this yamaha gem and also FXT90. FXT is already over 250 hours, EPH is around 50 hours. It's still immature to my ears for the yamaha.

 

JVC? Deep soundstage. Lighter bass. Sharper treble. Forward mids (but track dependent). The initial thickness of the sound changes after burn in. Could be due to my ears adjusting to them and/or EPH just have thicker mids.

 

EPH100 (impression after 50 hours)? Wide soundstage. Deep, punchy bass. Mids clear and laid back. Treble not as sharp as JVC. Waiting for it to open up because I tried listening to one after 300 hours. Feel different from mine.

post #2430 of 4123
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Originally Posted by autumnholy View Post

I got this yamaha gem and also FXT90. FXT is already over 250 hours, EPH is around 50 hours. It's still immature to my ears for the yamaha.

 

JVC? Deep soundstage. Lighter bass. Sharper treble. Forward mids (but track dependent). The initial thickness of the sound changes after burn in. Could be due to my ears adjusting to them and/or EPH just have thicker mids.

 

EPH100 (impression after 50 hours)? Wide soundstage. Deep, punchy bass. Mids clear and laid back. Treble not as sharp as JVC. Waiting for it to open up because I tried listening to one after 300 hours. Feel different from mine.

 

What were the differences with the burned in EPH100 compared to the newer ones?

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