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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post


true.
this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage.

 

 

False. RE0, RE262, RE272, JVC FX40, FX700, CKM77, CKM99, etc.

post #2402 of 4119
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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post

true.
this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage.

What you should of said was:. this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage "that I have heard"

Keep your guard up son!! At all times. tongue_smile.gif
post #2403 of 4119
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


What you should of said was:. this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage "that I have heard"
Keep your guard up son!! At all times. tongue_smile.gif

Or you could say that is the best iem that looks like the yamaha eph-100.

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

Keep your guard up son!! At all times. tongue_smile.gif

 

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post #2405 of 4119
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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

almost exactly how i found them to be out the clip, with an amp or the zo excellent also out of my cube c30 (which has a better amp inside) far improved.


Yes really I dont know what all the fuss about the clip+ is....

 

I mean it sounds alright for the money and it is cheap and has an SD slot but it really isnt THAT good sounding... The bass is lacking and the EQ is pretty mediocre.... Maybe I need to try rockbox, does this improve the bass?

post #2406 of 4119
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


What you should of said was:. this is the best iem in dynamic driver for clarity, instrument separation and soundstage "that I have heard"
Keep your guard up son!! At all times. tongue_smile.gif


The Yamaha do seem VERY good at seperation and clarity for a £80 headphone though... much better than my Shure SE215... I am still not sure if I like the treble on the Yamaha though....

 

Can anyone reccomend what would be the next step up from the Yamaha under £200?

 

Also did you notice any improvement from burning them in? (the yamaha)

 

I want :

 

As much / more bass and sub bass as the Yamaha

Maybe slightly better treble

 

I might just sell my HD650 and use IEM instead.


Edited by nicholars - 8/3/12 at 2:00am
post #2407 of 4119
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post


The Yamaha do seem VERY good at seperation and clarity for a £80 headphone though... much better than my Shure SE215... I am still not sure if I like the treble on the Yamaha though....

Can anyone reccomend what would be the next step up from the Yamaha under £200?

I want :

As much / more bass and sub bass as the Yamaha
Maybe slightly better treble

I might just sell my HD650 and use IEM instead.

They have HUGE instrument separation and imaging is top notch compared to other IEM's "I have heard" wink.gif What I enjoy also is their rear projection, their soundstage ability with the centre channel really goes to town. Nothing like a singers voice showing different depths track to track. Although they may not have quite the same clarity of TF10 I still feel they do vocals better than anything else I've tried, well maybe not GRO7 but that's a different signature all together.

I would suggest GRO7 it has the treble you're looking for, though the bass might not be enough for you, however it's better quality bass texture and detail. IMO. It goes lower then EPH, but lacks the mid bass hump the Yams use to create that "fun signature"


For those that didn't enjoy EPH-100 with the Clip+ you're doing it wrong! Use the stock firmware and EQ. wink.gif
Edited by H20Fidelity - 8/3/12 at 2:10am
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I don't think the Yams sound like they have a mid bass hump to me... They sound like they have pretty even bass and then good sub bass...

 

When I say "better treble" I dont mean "more treble" I dont really want much brighter than the Yams... I meant the tonality etc. I dont like bright headphones they hurt my ears

post #2409 of 4119
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

I don't think the Yams sound like they have a mid bass hump to me... They sound like they have pretty even bass and then good sub bass...

When I say "better treble" I dont mean "more treble" I dont really want much brighter than the Yams... I meant the tonality etc. I dont like bright headphones they hurt my ears

Once you hear GRO7 or TF10 you can notice the difference straight away, there's a big gap missing where mid bass should be. Trust me, EPH-100 have a slight mid bass hump.

I can only suggest what I've heard, we don't want to mislead you. smile.gif
post #2410 of 4119
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

Once you hear GRO7 or TF10 you can notice the difference straight away, there's a big gap missing where mid bass should be. Trust me, EPH-100 have a slight mid bass hump.
I can only suggest what I've heard, we don't want to mislead you. smile.gif

Yup, there is a pretty big mid bass hump. @nicholars: reason why you don't notice it is because you have hd650s with the same bump. I have both as well.

I could not unhear how bassy the yams were after switching to the phonaks for couple days. It is a safer signature for most music though...good for laidback listening.
post #2411 of 4119
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post


Yes really I dont know what all the fuss about the clip+ is....

 

I mean it sounds alright for the money and it is cheap and has an SD slot but it really isnt THAT good sounding... The bass is lacking and the EQ is pretty mediocre.... Maybe I need to try rockbox, does this improve the bass?

Not so much, yes you can eq the bass with RB but there are other factors that influence sound that are hardware based.  The clip is good it gives what i would consider the bassline sound in that its does what it does well at a decent price.  But when compared to the s:flo2, cube c30, studio, hifiman, ipod with lod and good amp you can tell a difference.  For some reason the is exacerbated with the eph (and for some strange reason it actually sounds better with stock firmware).

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Guys! Does the Yamah eph-100 sound better than the full-sized Audio-Technica ATH-M50 either unamped or amped through the Fiio 6???

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Originally Posted by lofthanza View Post

Guys! Does the Yamah eph-100 sound better than the full-sized Audio-Technica ATH-M50 either unamped or amped through the Fiio 6???

 

I say... yes. I never understand the hype on M50...

post #2414 of 4119
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Originally Posted by lofthanza View Post

Guys! Does the Yamah eph-100 sound better than the full-sized Audio-Technica ATH-M50 either unamped or amped through the Fiio 6???

there is almost no point in comparing iems with full size headphones.  Sorry to sound like a hard ass but its a pet peeve of mine when it happens.

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Originally Posted by stozzer123 View Post

there is almost no point in comparing iems with full size headphones.  Sorry to sound like a hard ass but its a pet peeve of mine when it happens.

Agreed...

Two different animals altogether.

Jim
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