Yamaha EPH-100 - Page 94

Mmm, but see, that's exactly what I would want! As well as better defined midbass; I find the subbass in the EPH mostly clean but not so much the midbass. Also, ideally for me, they would have more intimate vocals.

But they don't! That said the EPH still fills a gap in my collection and I will be keeping them for a while; I haven't hit 100 hours yet so we'll see how things go :)

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Originally Posted by pack21 

I like for that fact, for me are at the point for their signature.

 

If they had a sound more warm, they would need more air and treble, if not would sound a bit muffled.

But of course, tastes are tastes. :D

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 

 I find the subbass in the EPH mostly clean but not so much the midbass. Also, ideally for me, they would have more intimate vocals.

SM3 are calling for you.

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 

 I haven't hit 100 hours yet so we'll see how things go :)

 

Oh .... that is the reason. mine already has 170-180 hours. Let it Burn. :)

We'll see how the ASG-1 fairs; by all accounts it is superior to the SM3 in almost every way. I would still like to take Earsonics flavor some day but that day has certainly been postponed significantly. I also just prefer dynamics to BAs, I think; I enjoyed the X10 but they have their shortcomings; every other BA phone I've heard just sounds a liiiittle off in some way.
 

I am still holding out for the yams...they are an excellent complete package, and I would love for them to turn out better than they are now.

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Originally Posted by pack21 

SM3 are calling for you.

 

 

Oh .... that is the reason. mine already has 170-180 hoursSUBMIT. Let it Burn. :)

It may be, and I'm watching, but is still premature to be certain.

I will wait longer until see the prolonged effect of brain burn-in in their owners (for better or worse).

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 

We'll see how the ASG-1 fairs; by all accounts it is superior to the SM3 in almost every way.

Have u ordered them already?

Yes. I should have them by the end of the week :)
 

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed 

Have u ordered them already?

 

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 

Yes. I should have them by the end of the week :)
 

Nice :)

Let me know how they sound as soon as u can :D

Will do :)

Back on topic, I have to say, the EPH100 isolate possibly even better than the Klipsch X10, from what I remember. For some reason the X10 with stock eargels did a GREAT job of blocking bass bleed from traffic and the underground, but voices were still audible. The EPH blocks it all, without going as deep. Anyone need of isolation and optimal comfort (I personally find shallow-fitting double flanges to be the most comfortable of all kinds of tips, including foamies) would do well to consider them.

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed 

 

Nice :)

Let me know how they sound as soon as u can :D

 

What I found interesting is, to have the best soundstage (more width, deeph and separation) i must find the right point of tip insertion, not too deep or too shallow.

Have you noticed that? Try it.

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed 

I'm very happy for you :)

 

Btw, what didn't you like about the MG7's and how do the yamas address it?

You got me tempted for absolutely no reason in the yamas again LOL

I got three hours on them so far and I have been enjoying them quite a lot! What I didn't like about the MG7's was the closed it soundstage and very limited instrument separation  . The Atrio's MG7's felt like everything was coming out of one single pipe or a single very accurate speaker in front of my face with a separate  subwoofer somewhere in the room.

Instrument separation, balance and sound stage are very important to me and I like to feel immersed in sound. I am happy to report that after only such a brief amount of time I am getting that separation from the Yamaha's EPH-100 but only as long as I apply some serious EQ via my iPhone4 and EQU. I have been playing around with a few of the tips and have made a few observations. The stock middle ones fit me great and with deep insertion have provided me with most isolation I have experienced on any IEM yet! I could not hear many of the external sounds that I would normally hear with the MG7's, Coppers or TF10. Also microphonics were the lowest I have ever experienced. The only trade off with this deeper insertion and stock tips for me was that the Sub Bass was lacking. When I tried to EQ to get more bass then it would affect the overall sound and some very complex music like Skrillex or Deadmau5 would become a little bit congested in its presentation so I needed to tick down the bass.

This could also be due to the earphones not having been broken in yet as I only have three hours on them at reasonable volume. But something that made me love them is that I tried my Sony hybrid tips on them and now they sound amazing. What they provide for me is and immersive balanced sound.

If you are a basshead and are coming from the intense subbass of the MG7 or similar low rumble earphone then the balanced presentation may disappoint. It happened to me at first. Most of Us who have gotten used to deep bass have trained ourselves to expect that sensation that is almost physical and when they are played with the Yamaha's or many other highly rated earphones like the UM3X then it feels like something is missing. The bass on the Yamahas is good and there is sub bass but it does not provide that intense almost in your chest feel. You mostly hear it and feel it in your ears as sound but it is still very lovely. What I really like about the Yamaha is instrument separation. Not only instrument separation but there is a sense of space between the instruments that I have never heard before. Each instrument playing and the vocals sound like I would expect them to sound and have the right amount of importance in the track and some songs sounds like I am listening to them new for the very first time.

Some observations:

The bass and sub bass have now started to get their own unique sound the more time I put on them.

With the Sony hybrids I am getting quite a lot of microphonics to the point of being a little bothersome. Specially if you are outside and is windy you will hear the wind when it hits your earphones. Microphonics are the lowest for me with the stock tips and deeper insertion but bass suffers.

One big problem I have! You can't tell in the dark or by touch what earphone is right or left. If you take them off and is dark you need to find a good light source so you can see a very tiny R or L painted in the silver metal housing.

The cord feels of better quality than the MG7's but is not the springy kind like that of the Monster's

The carrying case is the cheapest carrying case I have ever seen. :D

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Originally Posted by eat2na 

I got three hours on them so far and I have been enjoying them quite a lot! What I didn't like about the MG7's was the closed it soundstage and very limited instrument separation  . The Atrio's MG7's felt like everything was coming out of one single pipe or a single very accurate speaker in front of my face with a separate  subwoofer somewhere in the room.

 

Brilliant comparison & impressions!
CHEERS!
 

I would have thought and thus why I held of the yamas due to their "lack of bass" - I truly love the rumble and the bass impact the MG7's give.

That said, they have a closed soundstage, as you stated, and which I greatly agree on.

Its the ONLY THING that annoys me about the MG7's.

Now with my ZO2...i feel I could get ANY bass-empty IEM's and turn them into bass monsters :P!

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Originally Posted by eat2na 

 

With the Sony hybrids I am getting quite a lot of microphonics to the point of being a little bothersome.

How on earth did you get hybrids on these?!

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Originally Posted by eat2na 

One big problem I have! You can't tell in the dark or by touch what earphone is right or left. If you take them off and is dark you need to find a good light source so you can see a very tiny R or L painted in the silver metal housing.
 

Let me help alleviate that one big problem.

The rubber sleeve coming off the left earbud has a tactile dot on it. Very clever.

Glad to read you are enjoying them. Consensus is that sound does improve with 100+ hour use so hopefully still you have more to gain from them.

Hey everyone I just wanted to say I'm really enjoying the EPH-100 and this thread with all the good reviews helped me in my decision.  For such a small driver they sound full and rich with exceptional detail for a warm sounding dynamic.  Its the kind of IEM you can listen to for hours on end and not get fatigued because of the smoothness in the presentation, its a fun one thats for sure.

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Originally Posted by Techno Kid 

For such a small driver they sound full and rich with exceptional detail for a warm sounding dynamic. 

Please know the jargon that we say before you use it

The EPH-100's are the farthest of warm sounding headphones. They are more neutral with a touch of dark.

But anyways, I'm glad you're enjoying them.