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post #121 of 251

Hi guys, only my second post but been reading for a while.

 

I just ordered the JH3A. After having been intrigued by them when I first heard about them, I followed the saga through the (extended!) headfi discussion over the last couple of years. This investment of time and curiosity, coupled with the positive impressions some of you have posted in this thread were enough to convince me to invest. So thanks to all of you for your contributions! I look forward to receiving my unit in a few weeks.

 

As these will be my first set of customs, and first portable amp, I have a couple of questions I hope some of you will be able to assist me with:

 

1. How do I best connect my Ipod to the JH3A (without CLAS)? What interconnect/LOD do people recommend and with what type of connection?

 

2. I understand that for best results a pure digital output is required for which I would need a CLAS. I cannot afford one at the moment, but hopefully I may be able to in the future. For this setup, again, what interconnects do people recommend?

 

I live in the UK, should that make any difference to availability of items.

 

Thanks in advance, guys!

Dan

 

EDIT: I thought this was my first post but had totally forgotten about having posted a while ago!


Edited by danthevan - 6/30/12 at 10:05am
post #122 of 251
Danthevan congratulation on your investment. You are exactly like me who has been lurking around the forum in search of ultimate portable setup. I too am about to pull the trigger on this setup so I've been gathering info quite sometimes. So I guess I might share to you here. Be fore warn that these are not my experience since I have yet to get the setup yet.

So for ipod connect analog to JH3A you should be able to use any LOD for it the better the quality of LOD the better (like this one:
http://www.whiplashaudio.com/elite-reference-line-out-dock-lod.html
I actually have a friend who use this one and really like it.

For digital connection is a little tricky

You can connect to pc or mac by using this bridge with bnc to mini s/pdif cable

http://www.halidedesign.com/bridge/

This is what Jhaudio use at CES as shown here http://www.head-fi.org/t/589569/ces-2012-what-happens-in-vegas#post_8051687

Or you can use M2tech hiface2 with rca to mini s/pdif cable

Or if you have ipad then you can use camera connection kit + halide bridge

Or you can just get the dap like ibasso DX100 with min to mini coax cable

These are all the choices so far that I consider worth looking into

Anyone else who has the best portable digital setup for JH3A please let us know especially connect from iphone to JH3A with digital which I have yet to find.
post #123 of 251

Thanks danpong for your extremely helpful guidance!

 

I will look into the different possibilities, I'm thinking something like a LOD for the time being, rather than upgrading my DAP (much as the ibasso looks tempting), as I don't have much money to spend right now. The Whiplash you recommend sure looks like a high quality item, but it has a price to match. Know of any better value LODs?

 

Once I receive my JH3A in a few weeks, I look forward to adding my impressions to the ones here!

post #124 of 251

To answer your second question, I had Ken at ALO build me a coaxial > mini cable (from CLAS > the 3A).  For my LOD I am using what Craig built using the Twag v2.   If you go to any of the cable builders they should all be able to help you.  You can research reviews of the various an sundry cables and their compositions and see what best suits your needs and budget.

 

I have use three sources for cables: ALO; Whiplash; and Moon Audio.  The service and quality of cables from all three have been perfect for me.

 

I think you will be amazed at how good is the JH3A.....but adding the CLAS in there does make a significant sound quality improvement difference.   I know, this hobby can get bloody expensive.  The worst thing that happened to me was finding this forum!

 

I hope a "few weeks" goes fast for you!

post #125 of 251

Thanks for your advice, kiwirugby, really helpful!

 

Having considered danpong's useful words, I'm now thinking of getting hold of an ibasso DX100 ($800+) with a moon audio cable ($65 +shipping) and use the digital out to maximise the JH3A rather than forking out $350 for a high quality LOD that still is analogue. It seems to me the DX100 will have an advantage over the CLAS in that fewer devices are needed yet still allowing for a pure digital stream to the 3A. Aside from the issue of extra financial outlay, my main concern about the DX100 relates to usability problems and the max storage capacity. I know you can swap microSD cards in and out, but I kinda like the idea of having all my music in one place like a mega-jukebox.

 

Way I see it, if I don't plump for a DX100, I use my current Ipod 5.5G and buy a LOD to connect to JH3A. In fact, quick question: does the JH3A accept a standard LOD connection or, as you did, kiwi, do you have to get a special LOD made up to use with the JH3A?

 

As you so correctly pointed out, kiwi, this hobby can be bloody expensive!

post #126 of 251
Yes the 3A will accept normal LOD with mini jack. You can find the manual from Jhaudio website. Basically it use the same port for both analog and digital. In order to have digital you just need the cable to have pinout like this http://www.head-fi.org/t/576747/jh-3a-sightings-in-the-wild/165#post_8011254
Also I understand about this hobby. However, once you listen to better sound quality, normal quality music is not quite satisfying anymore. I tend to feel and notice a missing sound from each of my favorite track. Hence, decision to get this Jh3A.
Also, before you invest in DX100, why don't go read on there appreciation thread first see if there any complaint or impression that might be useful. I'll defitnately look at that route also. biggrin.gif
post #127 of 251

Thanks for the tips, danpong, and I agree, I think some ibasso research is in order! Let's keep each other posted about any findings, buddy. bigsmile_face.gif

post #128 of 251

no problem.  Just post a detail review when you have time.  I'll wait couple month before put order in cuz I'm designing my faceplate now and I could use some weight loss before do the ear impression.  Do you have any custom faceplate art?  I'm planning to get the mother of pearl but don't know what picture should I put on yet ha ha.

post #129 of 251

Have no fear, my friend, I intend to share my thoughts - once I finally have it and have spent some time with it, of course!

 

As for artwork, I decided to go the simple, no-nonsense route and opted for clear shells. I briefly considered the idea of artwork, but found it difficult to work out what would actually look decent, and so settled on the safe, but still undeniably fine-looking, option.

 

Is waiting til you lose weight realistic? What if you put it back on again? I mean, I could do with losing some weight myself, and hopefully I'll motivate myself at some point to do so, but hey, then again, knowing me, it may never happen. Sure, your weight can affect the exact size and shape of your ear impressions, but I reckon don't use possible future weight loss as a reason to hold back. If you know it's definitely going to happen, then that's a different matter. Otherwise, I say just go for it, dude, or you might be waiting forever...

post #130 of 251

555 yeah I know what you mean.  However, I really need to lose this weight.  That is why I use this JH-3A as a carrot and stick if you know what I mean.  So I must maintain my goal weight if I want to still continue using it.  My last 2 months vacation was a blast but it cause me to gain 10 lbs.  I must lose it.  I also talk with JH audio whether is it possible to have the hybrid custom where the endtip is fit with the nossle that I can put the comply foam tip just like SE530 instead.  They said it possible.  I'll need to get more info on that.

post #131 of 251

I am so glad danpong answered your cable question, but I believe a 5.5 iPod (even iModded) will be analogue in to the JH3A.   What the CLAS does, and I assume the DX100 also, is you have the capacity to use digital in to the 3A.

 

I know nothing about the DX100 - but I agree the less there is between source and output it's probably better.  However, what I would want to know is how the DX100 digital out compares with the SOLO Clas digital out and, in addition to storage, how the music input and management between the DX100 and fill-in-the-blank iPod (I'm assuming lossless) compare.

 

I think danpong's counsel to do your homework before you slide into abject poverty (just teasing!) is spot on.

post #132 of 251

you could always get a QLS QA 350, sure its barebones, but its cheap, and supposed to be an awesome digital transport

post #133 of 251
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post

you could always get a QLS QA 350, sure its barebones, but its cheap, and supposed to be an awesome digital transport

Thank you I'll need to do some research.
post #134 of 251
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Originally Posted by kiwirugby View Post

I am so glad danpong answered your cable question, but I believe a 5.5 iPod (even iModded) will be analogue in to the JH3A.   What the CLAS does, and I assume the DX100 also, is you have the capacity to use digital in to the 3A.

 

I know nothing about the DX100 - but I agree the less there is between source and output it's probably better.  However, what I would want to know is how the DX100 digital out compares with the SOLO Clas digital out and, in addition to storage, how the music input and management between the DX100 and fill-in-the-blank iPod (I'm assuming lossless) compare.

 

I think danpong's counsel to do your homework before you slide into abject poverty (just teasing!) is spot on.

 

My 3a won't be here for a few weeks, but I have had my DX100 for a few days and the sound really is truly impressive, and makes up for the less than perfect (to be kind) software interface.  I'm going to be using a digital IC to the 3a from Craig at Whiplash and really can't wait for it to all be here and burned in.

post #135 of 251

Craig built my coaxial (from Solo DAC out) - mini (to JH3A in) and did a great job.  I hope you talked with Craig about the cable (Twag v2?) and connectors from you DX100 and to the 3A, just so you are both on the same page.  I'd hate you to get an IC that's not right.  Craig will do a good job for you.  He's really busy so you may want to send him the odd reminder.

 

You're in for a treat when the JH-3A arrives!

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