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post #3106 of 3224

I've been using my new magnums with the woodies from turbulent for few a weeks now.

 

Short summary: I can't stop shaking off these feeling of very recessed mids. Either I soldered incorrectly or got a bad pair of drivers/cables. Everything sounds really far away besides the midbass & bass. I'm not honestly sure, I did a test with my ms1 to see if something was different and straight away I could hear the in-your-head mids grados are known for.

 

Does anyone else have this issue or know of it?


Edited by indieroll - 1/10/14 at 2:19pm
post #3107 of 3224
A while back user Eyalcat complained of a complete lack of bass...there are variations between drivers sometimes, this has been noted with standard Grados, Alessandro's and Magnums, this could be what you are experiencing.

Personally I found that foam strips around the driver warmed up the sound and a flush fit with no foam strips thinned it out. The wood used in your cups also plays a part.

How are you mounting the drivers, what cable are you using, and what cups are you using?
post #3108 of 3224

That could be it. I basically went full turbulent with their cups, cable and drivers. I added blu tak to the back of the foam strips in order to mount it to the wood securely hoping it might give me better bass. Well it worked, but what you're saying could be what is potentially thinning the rest of the sq.

 

I'll play around with it a little, I did noticed some scratching noises coming through the drivers when I adjusted the cable's plug on my nexus 5. I was worried I got a bad audio out on my nexus, but after trying my other headphones with it,  it didn't seem to be the case.

post #3109 of 3224
I would lose the blu-tak and see what happens...can't hurt to try. I know the Turbulent drivers were supposed to have been specifically designed around those cups...

Try cleaning the jack on your cable...it might just need a dab of de-oxit.
post #3110 of 3224
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Originally Posted by fleasbaby View Post

Personally I found that foam strips around the driver warmed up the sound and a flush fit with no foam strips thinned it out. The wood used in your cups also plays a part.
 

Thanks for this information.  I received my Turbulent S a couple of days ago and just finished mounting them in some iroko cups I finished making today.  I wasn't sure the best way to mount the drivers so I put them directly into the wood without any foam strips. I may try them with a very thin strip of electrical tape because I don't have room for foam tape.  I will make a couple of more sets of cups (limba, cherry, walnut ??) and make one or more of them big enough to allow use of foam tape. 

 

Mine are sounding very good, easily IMO better than my MS1i or SR225i.

post #3111 of 3224
It's been way too quiet on this thread...I finally finished Magnum Build, so to provide a little light relief:









Headband: Turbulent Labs
Cable: fellow head-fier wje
Cups: fellow head-fier Cabillas
Drivers: Magnum X

...and extremely generous assistance when my rather stunted soldering skills couldn't live up to the challenge, fellow head-fier Ted AKA the man behind Headphone Lounge.
post #3112 of 3224
Ya it has been quiet here. Personally I've given the mags a backseat to my planar setup, but, now that its on pause, I plan to fiddle with my mags again. I need to re cable, make new cups, and figure out the headband situation. Making wooden gimbals hasn't worked out so far for me. Rod blocks would be easy, just havnt tried yet. I just need to finish these things, its been to long. But, I'm going to make an in line resistor to use with my new mini x, they sound good with it, but I get some hiss. There is somethi g about the "grado" sound that keeps me attached.
post #3113 of 3224

...it is indeed that Grado sound...

 

Today I got a pair of ear-zonk G-Cush pads in. This was my first experience with a G-Cush of any sort. I was getting them more for a SennGrado build than for my Magnums, but figured since I had them, why not...I could feel immediately a lessening of the "immediacy" that you get with Grados and Magnums, but with it came better soundstage, increased detail, and a more even tonality across the board. Most enjoyable.

 

So now I have, essentially, a pair of knock-off GS1000 I suppose. The build consists of Magnum X drivers, a Turbulent Labs headband, a pair of GS1000-style Cabillas cups, ear-zonk G-cush pads and a cable made by fellow head-fier wje. I have never heard (and more than likely will never financially be able to own) a pair of GS1000 or GS1000i, but that's nothing to get my knickers in a twist over. I am really liking what I hear.

post #3114 of 3224

well now ill be ordering some gcush! i had always heard you lose to much overall with them. But, increased soundstage and detail? Im in!!!

post #3115 of 3224
I can see how folks would say that, and YMMV too, but I am liking the little bit of lessening of the Grado "in-your-face" sound, and the increased comfort. These make the L-Cush feel like an exercise in masochism.

I suspect that with my Graham Slee Voyager and it's contour switch the "loss" would be minimal too...sadly I sold it and my larger iPod off and am biding my time with an old iPod Touch 1G, an old Sony NWZ Walkman and a FiiO E5. I am waiting on the FiiO X5 global release. Remarkable what those old Touches can do with ALAC and a line out though...
Edited by fleasbaby - 1/18/14 at 6:58am
post #3116 of 3224
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Originally Posted by fleasbaby View Post
 

...it is indeed that Grado sound...

 

Today I got a pair of ear-zonk G-Cush pads in. This was my first experience with a G-Cush of any sort. I was getting them more for a SennGrado build than for my Magnums

How about treble? Is it tamed down?

I just bought G-Cushes for 20$ (almost new), for the future SennGrados.

post #3117 of 3224

If it is, its not by leaps and bounds to my wooden ears :)

 

I have spent most of my time with better headphones with my head between the pads of a pair of Grados, and after years of L and S cush pads, the sound and the feeling is simply "more relaxed". I used to feel a little fatigued at the end of a day at the office listening. I suspect these will change that when I return to my desk next week.

post #3118 of 3224

Thanks. I don't have flats. G's are going to me right now. Every other - S-cush/HD414 sound pretty much the same, L-cush a bit different, L-cush upside down - slightly different to others. It's almost like having a new pair of headphones.

post #3119 of 3224
Quote:
Originally Posted by fleasbaby View Post

It's been way too quiet on this thread...I finally finished Magnum Build, so to provide a little light relief:









Headband: Turbulent Labs
Cable: fellow head-fier wje
Cups: fellow head-fier Cabillas
Drivers: Magnum X

...and extremely generous assistance when my rather stunted soldering skills couldn't live up to the challenge, fellow head-fier Ted AKA the man behind Headphone Lounge.

 

Nice, didn't you have another pair of magnums? 

post #3120 of 3224

Indeed...and sold them off like a fool...this was to rebuild the same pair... :)

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