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Originally Posted by shawn_low View Post

I can't find anything on the Turbulent site detailing changes between all the Magnum drivers. I have a Magnum Lite v2 MS2i (Symphones drivers and aluminium housing) that I subsequently upgraded to V2.5.

 

Since then Symphones has stopped doing the lite and full alu mods and are focused solely on drivers. But it seems like there's a new iteration every couple of months! Hard to keep up especially when the thread expands to this one and each thread is over a 150+ pages!

Well, Turbulent has just recently (less than a year) become involved as the official distributor for Magnum drivers. Rhydon, the Magnum creator, used to sell them himself, but now Turbulent does the sales. The history of the Magnum is primarily contained in a few threads here on head-fi. I purchased the X when it came out around November 2012, so that means it's been about 9 months since the Magnums have seen an update. Rhydon is rather secretive about his driver developments, so it's anyone's guess as to if or when another driver revision will be out.

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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Hey folks, off topic I suppose, but quick question. So, I have my grado Sr80i, and I have a pair of hifiman he400s. While I love the 400 immensely, they just aren't forward,especially vocals. Now, if anyone has experience with magnums and hifimans, I'd like to know if building a magnum would now be a good compliment to the hifimans, I actually have custom cocobolo outters with black limba inner sleeves already. I was in the midst of building the magnum but the planar bug bit me. Just now trying to figure out if they'd compliment each other. Thanks in advance and feel free to tell me to spend all of my money on hps, because I plan to anyways.

You can expect the Magnum to be similar sounding to the SR80i, but better on virtually every front. I prefer the Magnums over the HE-400, but the only bad thing is the Magnums don't have the sub-bass of the orthos.

 

Now...if you like Grados, the HE-400 is the last headphone I'd suggest unless you really just want something totally different. But if you want a planar magnetic headphone that is closer to the Grado sound rather than the HE-400 sound, try the HE-4 or HE-5LE (if you can find one). Only problem with those is you'll need a powerful amp, but they're certainly the brightest and most forward of the Hifimans. I love them both.

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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

You can expect the Magnum to be similar sounding to the SR80i, but better on virtually every front. I prefer the Magnums over the HE-400, but the only bad thing is the Magnums don't have the sub-bass of the orthos.

 

Now...if you like Grados, the HE-400 is the last headphone I'd suggest unless you really just want something totally different. But if you want a planar magnetic headphone that is closer to the Grado sound rather than the HE-400 sound, try the HE-4 or HE-5LE (if you can find one). Only problem with those is you'll need a powerful amp, but they're certainly the brightest and most forward of the Hifimans. I love them both.

I echo these sentiments. Although I personally enjoy my magnum more than I enjoyed my HE-5LE (amped w/ a speaker amp).

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Originally Posted by joeq70 View Post

I echo these sentiments. Although I personally enjoy my magnum more than I enjoyed my HE-5LE (amped w/ a speaker amp).

Oh nice! I didn't know you owned the HE-5LE.

 

I still flirt with the idea of building another V5 in the future...mine was ultimately too bass-light, which seems to be anomalous based on what others have said about their V5. I'd be curious to hear the ultra-clarity of the V5 I had, but with a proper bass response.

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Oh nice! I didn't know you owned the HE-5LE.

 

I still flirt with the idea of building another V5 in the future...mine was ultimately too bass-light, which seems to be anomalous based on what others have said about their V5. I'd be curious to hear the ultra-clarity of the V5 I had, but with a proper bass response.

I don't think your perception is off at all. The V5 has punchy, tactile bass, but it does not extend that low. People who think that Magnums have sub bass are probably lacking experience with other headphones. I don't mind this shortcoming that much as even with the lack of sub bass, the Magnum is my favorite headphone over some pretty good phones including the Audeze LCD 2 (I think planars just aren't my thing.)

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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

Oh nice! I didn't know you owned the HE-5LE.

 

I still flirt with the idea of building another V5 in the future...mine was ultimately too bass-light, which seems to be anomalous based on what others have said about their V5. I'd be curious to hear the ultra-clarity of the V5 I had, but with a proper bass response.

I think the V5 are bass-light as well. What would you do differently in the V5 build to improve that?

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I just got a new pair of V5 and don't think they're bass light. Love the bass in this intro on the magnums.

 

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Originally Posted by marts30 View Post

I just got a new pair of V5 and don't think they're bass light. Love the bass in this intro on the magnums.

 

 

They do fine with bass in metal and in most songs, really, but with certain songs the lower registers are little lacking. The punchy mid-bass of the Magnums hides it pretty well.

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Originally Posted by shawn_low View Post

I can't find anything on the Turbulent site detailing changes between all the Magnum drivers. I have a Magnum Lite v2 MS2i (Symphones drivers and aluminium housing) that I subsequently upgraded to V2.5.

 

Since then Symphones has stopped doing the lite and full alu mods and are focused solely on drivers. But it seems like there's a new iteration every couple of months! Hard to keep up especially when the thread expands to this one and each thread is over a 150+ pages!

 

V1 had exactly the same tonal balance (from my impressions anyway) as the 325is.

V2 had a lot more bass, more like the old PS1, which I've briefly heard (I'm not familiar with the other Grados).

V3 and V3.5 had other enhancements but at the time Rhydon had changed to stippled aluminium insert to reduce ringing.

I forgot what had changed about the V4 drivers, but the aluminium insert went back to regular aluminium but with a rubber-like coating to prevent ringing instead.

VX (V5) is sold through Turbulent labs only.

 

The later versions are supposed to have improved bass, but none of them do deep bass as well as some closed-backed headphones or orthos. They have a reasonable amount of mid-bass which starts off excessive when new and gradually goes down to about the right level after 50+ hours of use.  The sound is going to be affected by the cups to a considerable degree. I've only ever owned the aluminium versions.

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do you guys have an amp recommendation for the turbulent x drivers? is there anything that stands out?

 

I've been wanting to build a bottlehead crack, how would this do?

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Originally Posted by kchapdaily View Post

do you guys have an amp recommendation for the turbulent x drivers? is there anything that stands out?

 

I've been wanting to build a bottlehead crack, how would this do?

 

I see the Aune T1 thrown around lately, have one coming myself too. Using LD I+ at the moment, pairs nicely. 

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Originally Posted by kchapdaily View Post

do you guys have an amp recommendation for the turbulent x drivers? is there anything that stands out?

 

I've been wanting to build a bottlehead crack, how would this do?

 

They are like Grados: They sound good out of just about everything, though the Crack is a bad idea as it is for high-Z headphones, which these aren't.

 

That being said, the amp I like them most with is the Pico Power.

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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

 

They are like Grados: They sound good out of just about everything, though the Crack is a bad idea as it is for high-Z headphones, which these aren't.

 

That being said, the amp I like them most with is the Pico Power.

Yes, Crack (and any OTL amp) is bad and almost anything else is good.

You may want to consider features e.g.

a) portable/battery or desktop

b) amp or DAC amp

c) inputs: mini, RCA or USB/digital 

d) output mini or 1/4"

post #2789 of 3221
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Originally Posted by Biscuitz View Post

You can expect the Magnum to be similar sounding to the SR80i, but better on virtually every front. I prefer the Magnums over the HE-400, but the only bad thing is the Magnums don't have the sub-bass of the orthos.

Now...if you like Grados, the HE-400 is the last headphone I'd suggest unless you really just want something totally different. But if you want a planar magnetic headphone that is closer to the Grado sound rather than the HE-400 sound, try the HE-4 or HE-5LE (if you can find one). Only problem with those is you'll need a powerful amp, but they're certainly the brightest and most forward of the Hifimans. I love them both.
Well like I said I own and love the he400, and don't see the magnum necessarily beating it. I know it won't be able to ski d as open and airy, nor have the soundstage that the he400 has. Needless to say, I really am hoping the wife buys me magnum drivers for my birthday at the end of this month. I need to finish my limba inners, custom limba gimbals and spoke holders in preparation I suppose. Can't ever have enough toys fellas! Love this hobby but hell it is addicting
post #2790 of 3221
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

 

They are like Grados: They sound good out of just about everything, though the Crack is a bad idea as it is for high-Z headphones, which these aren't.

 

That being said, the amp I like them most with is the Pico Power.

i only ask about the crack and grados (turbulent x) because the bottlehead page says they work "very well" with them. this sort of confused me, but i figured since they need very little power, it could do it as long as the damping factor was ok (dont know the output Z of the crack).

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