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post #61 of 154

 

Excuse me?

 

 

He's talking about 16kHz+, downsampling to 32kHz cuts off 16kHz+.

 


Edited by kiteki - 11/1/11 at 12:29pm
post #62 of 154
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Excuse me?

 

 

He's talking about 16kHz+, downsampling to 32kHz cuts off 16kHz+.

 

Exactly, why do I have to give up those frequencies if I can hear them? That's just mean wink.gif
post #63 of 154

 

Lol, but honestly I'm confused, 32kHz sounds so poor next to 44.1kHz that it CAN'T just be cutting off the 16kHz+ range!! That just seems impossible to me, especially when 90% of 16 years olds can't even hear above 16kHz!! I must be missing something here, that's why I asked you to check, if you're interested.

 

 

 

post #64 of 154
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Lol, but honestly I'm confused, 32kHz sounds so poor next to 44.1kHz that it CAN'T just be cutting off the 16kHz+ range!! That just seems impossible to me, especially when 90% of 16 years olds can't even hear above 16kHz!! I must be missing something here, that's why I asked you to check, if you're interested.



Alright, I'll downsample a few good songs to see how it hurts them. I'll be back with an opinion on it.
Edited by sml1226 - 11/1/11 at 1:05pm
post #65 of 154

 

No need to downsample, what a hassle ><

 

 

Use SoX in foobar, that's the best resampler I know of. ^^

 

post #66 of 154
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No need to downsample, what a hassle ><

 

 

Use SoX in foobar, that's the best resampler I know of. ^^

 

Running OSX now... and Toast Titanium takes about 5 seconds to do a downsample from my 44.1 FLAC to 32 WAV.

Anyway, so far, Audacity spectrum analysis of Dire Straits' "Walk Of Life" between the two sampling rates (44.1kHz and 32kHz) shows some interesting results:
Spectrum Analysis Graphs (Click to show)
screenshot20111101at345.png
44.1kHz

screenshot20111101at345.png
32kHz

You're right to think it doesn't simply affect the 16kHz+ frequencies. The whole song is quieter, noticeably so, and the rolloff really kicks in about 14kHz so you lose quite a bit within the range you supposedly still had as well as the 16+

And downsampling, despite lowering all of the levels, made it clip where there was no problem at 44.1:
Clipping @ 32kHz (Click to show)
screenshot20111101at352.png


Anyway, it's pretty bad to see what happens without the frequencies you should be able to hear if you haven't suffered any significant hearing loss.
post #67 of 154

 

Cool!! Very thorough.

 

 

Now try upsampling. =)

 

post #68 of 154
Upsampled to 64kHz

It's got some sound above 20kHz now, but the whole song is louder, in some places significantly so so that may be a loss on some songs and not so much on others: Spectrum (Click to show)
screenshot20111101at553.png

Clipped again... Clipping (Click to show)
screenshot20111101at554.png
post #69 of 154

I love the treble on my mdr-7506wink_face.gif

post #70 of 154

HD800?

post #71 of 154

Some posts over in the neutral/balanced thread got me thinking...

 

Does being a treblehead mean one likes volume-boosted treble (the way bassheads exaggerate the low end), or is a clear, detailed high end without exaggerated volume enough to qualify?

 

The AD700 has exaggerated volume, the Lambda significantly less so.

post #72 of 154

 

 

Headphone:

 

frequencyresponse.jpg

 

Human:

 

Fletcher-Munson.gif

 

 

 


Edited by kiteki - 11/4/11 at 7:42pm
post #73 of 154
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

Some posts over in the neutral/balanced thread got me thinking...

 

Does being a treblehead mean one likes volume-boosted treble (the way bassheads exaggerate the low end), or is a clear, detailed high end without exaggerated volume enough to qualify?

 

The AD700 has exaggerated volume, the Lambda significantly less so.


 

Bassheads don't always want exaggerated low end, sometimes extension is all a basshead need. It all depends on one's personal preferences. Personally I prefer extension over emphasis, thats of course, if I can't have both. The same should apply to trebleheads, at least IMO beerchug.gif

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And your point being?

 

post #75 of 154

 

That the first graph plus the second one equals a flat line.

 

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