HD 650: Tight bass and fast enough attack speed for dark psytrance??

Heya,

 

Sure.

 

But a Denon D2000 will do it great too, without the expensive DAC/AMP need. I would also point you towards the Ultrasone HFI 2400 too. Also, not needing an amp.

 

Very best,

Check out Purrin's waterfall graphs showing the attack / decay measured rates for the 

Grado RS1 / Senn HD650 and Denon D2000

 

RS1 did best, Senn HD650 was more than competent but the D2000 looked shabby

and slow in comparison.

 

Still they're just measurements I guess at the end of the day, the RS1 may be fast but

it generally sucks for electronica.

Yep, that will be overkill if anything ~ sound will be quite warm, not ideal if you like sonic highs in your treble.

Wow that first track was a total nostalgia trip.  It felt like I was in the basement playing FFVII again.

 

J-E-N-O-V-A!!!

 

The HD650 is plenty fast enough to handle the music but if you are into high treble energy, you might need to look elsewhere.

 

BTW, listening to the tracks on a Denon D5000 I would have to say the bass was a little too muddy for my tastes.

Yep, HD 650 is definitely warm, coupled with a Burson 160 it will be very, very cosy indeed. If that's your idea of natural then you can

cross off any chances of being a treble-head. 

 

Just preferences at the end of the day ~ I like the HD650 off fairly bright sources + amps, I feel it balances out nicely.

Very tame in comparison, some call it 'non fatiguing'.

Where are Purin's waterfall plots for the D2000?  I only ever saw them for the D7000-- which-- by the graphs (if I read the right ones in the right way), had a tighter bass response than the HD650.  The songs don't have a lot of impactful or fast bass imo, but it could be the youtube vids.

 

 

Edited by TMRaven - 10/19/11 at 11:11pm

I don't think I've ever heard dark psytrance. Suppose I'll have to add it to the list of things I need to try.

Anyway, you want lots of tight, deep bass, right?

The HD-650 works great for that. Though they're particular about amps. For deep, tight bass you'd want clean solid state with lots of power. The classic example is the Dynalo/Gilmore Lite. A bit over 1W of power and clean and clear as the morning light. You might also want to consider the M^3 which can be built with a variable bass boost control and the new O2. I haven't head the O2, but it sure has clean measurements. So, no, you do not have to spend a fortune on an amp. But you will have to spend a few hundred on the right one.

As for the Denons, they produce a lot of bass that I don't find particularly clean. Clean bass in closed headphones is hard to find. Most people are happy with the huge amount. The Grado RS-1 is quite colored. I enjoyed a pair for several years then burned out on the sound. It was like having ketchup on everything I ate. The HD-650 has a slightly dark coloration overall, but it is evenhanded and not too bad. The HD-600 is a bit more neutral.

For fast electronic music, Audio Technica AD2000 can't be beat. Way better than a Sennheiser for those genres, especially, though I wouldn't mind it on a Sennheiser either...

The HD 650 can handle all genres with ease, in my opinion.

 

 

You'll have a lot of fun with the Ultrasones...