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post #31 of 45

Congrats!  I'm currently loving the same combo as well.  smile.gif   I will be sure to check out your review, looking forward to it.

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Congrats!  I'm currently loving the same combo as well.  smile.gif   I will be sure to check out your review, looking forward to it.



So how do you like the combo?

I think I will start writing in a week and a half, exams are next week!

Plus in a week and a half I will have had more experience with this combo.

post #33 of 45
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For anyone interested here is my review of the fiio e9 and HD650

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/579172/sennheiser-hd-650-fiio-e9-review

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So I bought the HD650 with the fiioE9.

 

I have to say I am very pleased with this purchase, not only is the sennheiser HD650 very good, the amp even makes my dt770 pro sound better.

 

Something I did not expect was that my DAC could drive the HD650 loud, in fact in can drive it Very loud.

The sound may go up very loud with my DAC, yet it does sound muddy and thin.

 

They say the E9 does not add any coloration, but it does make the sound a lot fuller, especially with the HD650, but also with the dt770 pro (80 ohm).

I guess the E9 just makes the headphones sound the way they are supposed to sound.

 

I will be writing a full review soon on the HD650 and the fiioE9!

 


enjoy your hd 650s! 

 

they do sound pretty good even off of entry-level amps. the best thing is, they scale really well and will sound alot better as you improve your system biggrin.gif

 

post #35 of 45
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enjoy your hd 650s! 

 

they do sound pretty good even off of entry-level amps. the best thing is, they scale really well and will sound alot better as you improve your system biggrin.gif

 



Thanks!

 

I really am enjoying this set-up, and I do believe better amps will make the headphone sound better but I really don't have the money for that now! 

However I really do believe this one of the best set-ups for the least amount of money.

I guess I can keep an eye on a secondhanded little dot.

 

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Thanks!

 

I really am enjoying this set-up, and I do believe better amps will make the headphone sound better but I really don't have the money for that now! 

However I really do believe this one of the best set-ups for the least amount of money.

I guess I can keep an eye on a secondhanded little dot.

 

 

little dots are supposed to have good synergy with the hd 650s.

 

and yes, better amps do sound better wink.gif

 

i started out using just my computer/ipod, then i got a portable headphone amp, then a small desktop amp, and now my wa6se, and ive noticed an improvement during each of those stages 

 

 

 

post #37 of 45
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little dots are supposed to have good synergy with the hd 650s.

 

and yes, better amps do sound better wink.gif

 

i started out using just my computer/ipod, then i got a portable headphone amp, then a small desktop amp, and now my wa6se, and ive noticed an improvement during each of those stages 

 

 

 


And you use your HD650 as your main headphone? Have you ever considered buying the hd800?

I noticed the wa6se is just a bit out of my price range :p

 

 

 

post #38 of 45
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And you use your HD650 as your main headphone? Have you ever considered buying the hd800?

I noticed the wa6se is just a bit out of my price range :p

 

 

 



umm yeah lol

 

but i use my sr 325is alot more than my hd 650s.

post #39 of 45
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umm yeah lol

 

but i use my sr 325is alot more than my hd 650s.



Wow really? I guess you don't really need the amp for the grado headphone? 

So you only use your hd650 for the more bass heavy genres?

post #40 of 45
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Wow really? I guess you don't really need the amp for the grado headphone? 

So you only use your hd650 for the more bass heavy genres?



i use pro 900 or dt 990 for bass heavy genres like rap/electronic.

 

i use the hd 650s for more casual listening where a slight bass boost is needed, but i don't want to lose any mids or bass quality. mostly songs where quality over quantity is needed.

 

the grados sometimes don't provide enough warmth or bass on some recordings, thats where the hd  650s come in biggrin.gif

 

 

basically the hd 650s are well balanced and work for almost any type of music, i just prefer the grado sound for rock/metal/jazz/some vocals. the grados just seem more natural and sound more like your listening to speakers in a way (that forward open sound signature they have)

 

plus the grados while having less bass than the hd 650s, it sounds different, in a good way 

 

 

 

 

 

and they do need amping. they sound fine out of even a portable amp due to their low impedance, but they sound great coming out of the WA6SE tongue.gif

post #41 of 45

 

I'm torn on this as well. My journey with headphones has been an interesting one to say the least.

 

I went from Grados, to Audio Technica, to Sennheiser, to AKG to Denon to Hi-Fiman. 


The Grados were a bit too crass for me. I would always get headaches. So then I went to ATHM50's. I actually still have those today. For $80 (they were on sale), they have been the most balanced headphone I've heard to date. It does a lot of things well, but nothing phenomenal. But I'm okay with that. They are nice little headphones that I take with me when I travel. Then I got the HD-600's, which I enjoyed, but felt the bass was a little too low for my personal taste. But I loved the clarity of the acoustics and the soundstage. AND most of all, they didn't give me headaches. But this was back in the day when I first started my journey, so I passed up on those. Then I went to AKG, and I hated those. I know they have a similar sound to HD-600's (I think?) but the K-702s drove my ears nuts. I don't know what it was about the sound, but I would get a burning sensation in my ear. Only with those. So then I went to Denon, and I enjoyed those as well. But I didn't really care for their sound style overall, so I went to Hi-Fiman.

 

I bit the bullet, and got the HE-500s. And I was floored. Absolutely loved everything about those headphones, BUT...they were too heavy. My head would get massive headaches, I could only listen to maybe an album or two before having to take them off. I just have a sensitive head/hearing I guess. But the real issue for me was, they cost $950. And given where I was at, at the time, I realized financially I shouldn't be owning them. So I returned them. (I know they have a price drop now, still out of my price range, and doesn't address the weight issue). 

 

So, I've just been using my ATHM50s for a year or two now. After Christmas though, I got some money kicking around. And I was seriously considering the HD-650s or the HE-300s. I'm torn because, I loved the hi-fiman sound on the HE-500s. But those were planar magnetics, and these are not. So I'm not sure how much different it will be. The HD-650's are headphones I've always wanted to try, and regretted. I loved the 600's at the time, so apart of me wants me to try them again. But I want to go with the 650's, because the bass is a bit more pushed up on those (and my issue with the 600's was lack of bass). I mean, obviously I know the 650s won't have booming bass lol. I'm okay with that.

 

Long story short, I'm considering either the HE-300s (because I love hi-fiman). The pros are they are only $249 + the leather (pleather?) pads will make them more comfortable. They are also light. The HD-650s clamp (but can be adjusted), but are also a lot more revered on this site. 


Not sure what I'm going to do. 


Edited by Linus108 - 1/2/12 at 10:19am
post #42 of 45
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I'm torn on this as well. My journey with headphones has been an interesting one to say the least.

 

I went from Grados, to Audio Technica, to Sennheiser, to AKG to Denon to Hi-Fiman. 


The Grados were a bit too crass for me. I would always get headaches. So then I went to ATHM50's. I actually still have those today. For $80 (they were on sale), they have been the most balanced headphone I've heard to date. It does a lot of things well, but nothing phenomenal. But I'm okay with that. They are nice little headphones that I take with me when I travel. Then I got the HD-600's, which I enjoyed, but felt the bass was a little too low for my personal taste. But I loved the clarity of the acoustics and the soundstage. AND most of all, they didn't give me headaches. But this was back in the day when I first started my journey, so I passed up on those. Then I went to AKG, and I hated those. I know they have a similar sound to HD-600's (I think?) but the K-702s drove my ears nuts. I don't know what it was about the sound, but I would get a burning sensation in my ear. Only with those. So then I went to Denon, and I enjoyed those as well. But I didn't really care for their sound style overall, so I went to Hi-Fiman.

 

I bit the bullet, and got the HE-500s. And I was floored. Absolutely loved everything about those headphones, BUT...they were too heavy. My head would get massive headaches, I could only listen to maybe an album or two before having to take them off. I just have a sensitive head/hearing I guess. But the real issue for me was, they cost $950. And given where I was at, at the time, I realized financially I shouldn't be owning them. So I returned them. (I know they have a price drop now, still out of my price range, and doesn't address the weight issue). 

 

So, I've just been using my ATHM50s for a year or two now. After Christmas though, I got some money kicking around. And I was seriously considering the HD-650s or the HE-300s. I'm torn because, I loved the hi-fiman sound on the HE-500s. But those were planar magnetics, and these are not. So I'm not sure how much different it will be. The HD-650's are headphones I've always wanted to try, and regretted. I loved the 600's at the time, so apart of me wants me to try them again. But I want to go with the 650's, because the bass is a bit more pushed up on those (and my issue with the 600's was lack of bass). I mean, obviously I know the 650s won't have booming bass lol. I'm okay with that.

 

Long story short, I'm considering either the HE-300s (because I love hi-fiman). The pros are they are only $249 + the leather (pleather?) pads will make them more comfortable. They are also light. The HD-650s clamp (but can be adjusted), but are also a lot more revered on this site. 


Not sure what I'm going to do. 

 


You sure have had quite a journey through the land of headphones! I am actually considering to buy the ath-m50's for traveling when I have the money.

 

About the HD650; it is really comfortable, it is very light, and when given enough bass (with an equalizer) it can have quite massive amounts of bass that extends all the way down.

Also they have fantastic mids, and pretty much don't do anything wrong, there isn't a single thing I can concentrate on that drives me crazy (like sibilance, or a floppy bass).

I have heard sound systems over 3000 dollars that sounded less good than the HD650's (with less good I mean less neutral, less soundstage, slower sounding etc).

 

So considering your history with headphones, I am sure you will like the HD650's.

 

post #43 of 45

Appreciate the reply friend.

 

I think I AM just going to go with the HD-650's. I've seen a lot of mixed reviews on these HE-300's, and I already know they aren't the same sound as the He-500s (in terms of sound/style. Of course, they aren't the same drivers/price range). Not that HD-650s will be either. But I was only leaning towards the HiFiman...because well I liked my past experience with them. So at this point, I'm going to bank on my past experience with the 600 + all the glowing/passionate support for the 650's I see on here.

 

Plus, the HE-400's are coming out soon anyways at $350. Seems kind of pointless getting the HE-300's (for me, at least). I'm already willing to spend $350-400. I guess the only thing left now for me is, sit back and see what people are saying about the 400's. They aren't out yet, and are going to be new headphones. So I might just hold off on buying headphones for 3 months, then come back.

 

Although, again an issue with me is the weight. How the headphones fit on my head etc. Looking at the pictures, I wouldn't be surprised if the HE-400s were still heavy (given the drivers). On a side note, I do recommend you get the M50's. If you can get them at a cheap price, they are good all around phone. They won't amaze you or anything, but they are extremely balanced, and great for travel. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

 


You sure have had quite a journey through the land of headphones! I am actually considering to buy the ath-m50's for traveling when I have the money.

 

About the HD650; it is really comfortable, it is very light, and when given enough bass (with an equalizer) it can have quite massive amounts of bass that extends all the way down.

Also they have fantastic mids, and pretty much don't do anything wrong, there isn't a single thing I can concentrate on that drives me crazy (like sibilance, or a floppy bass).

I have heard sound systems over 3000 dollars that sounded less good than the HD650's (with less good I mean less neutral, less soundstage, slower sounding etc).

 

So considering your history with headphones, I am sure you will like the HD650's.

 



 


Edited by Linus108 - 1/2/12 at 2:48pm
post #44 of 45
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Plus, the HE-400's are coming out soon anyways at $350. Seems kind of pointless getting the HE-300's (for me, at least). I'm already willing to spend $350-400. I guess the only thing left now for me is, sit back and see what people are saying about the 400's. They aren't out yet, and are going to be new headphones. So I might just hold off on buying headphones for 3 months, then come back.

 

 

 

 



 

Yeah, who knows when rev.2 might raise its pretty little head.blink.gif
 

 

post #45 of 45

you will love the hd 650.

 

not heavy, comfy, smooth and non fatiguing, warm with just a nice bass boost, its still one of my favorite headphones.

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