ok so the jacket is taken care of thanks guys. it seems any one serious about the outdoors layers. so will i from now on. i like h2no better than event. columbia is a sprayed liner mostly than is imo worse than gore. hyvent is pretty good too. like i said gore is like tempurpedic. their technology has been taken to new levels by others. still, gore is very important in things like surgery.
uncle erik, i have animals that produce fur. like rabbits,sheep etc. i think i am going to offer some friends a deal if they will let me destroy a cruel item of theirs i will make them a new one out of fur from animals that were not harmed! honestly i could make money with fur production and not harm the animals but i am out for animal welfare not profit. you can read about what burlington did. bad news. very few places i wouldn't shop but i draw the line with that one. no matter, their stuff is junk anyhow.
btw, for what it is the bugaboo is a nice jacket if i must say so myself. no wonder it has been around 25 years. that is not what i plan to wear but if i were running to the grocery store.....
the only downside of my journey is i spent like 2 grand on jackets and layers. i have like 4 complete layered jackets now.