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I'm new to this forum and I love it already. I hope you guys can give me some suggestion.

 

I want to buy an headphone, it doesn't have to be  a noise cancelling one. It is all about the sound for me.

 

I listened to the Bose Quietcomfort 15 and they were awesome in sound quality. The mids and tops were great, the bass was decent.

The Dr Dre Studio's were the opposite;  the bass was great but the mids and highs were decent.

 

So actually I want a combination of those two: I want great mids and highs, but a great bass as well. As I said - I don't need noise cancelling headphones.

My budget is $0 - $450

 

 

I've quite a small head, so I prefer not having a HUGE headphone. I'm going to use it at home, but if you find some good mobile headphones, feel free to mention them as well.

 

So why is a headphone amp needed? Is it needed for all headphones? Because I prefer not buying it... Unless it's a must.

 

I don't really know what the main difference is between a closed and open back headphone...   I'm going to use the headphones for audio producing by the way.  Genre: Pop, Rock (and maybe RnB)

 

So can you guys give me some suggestions? What headphones do you guys suggest me?


Edited by The Known - 10/15/11 at 12:48pm

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post #2 of 28

What are your musical preferences?

Does the headphone need to be mobile or will you mainly listen at home?

Does size matter?

Do you want an open back or closed back headphone?

Are you willing to spend on an amp as well as a dac?


Edited by TehJam - 10/15/11 at 12:03pm
post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 

I've a small head, so I prefer not having a HUGE headphone. I'm going to use it at home, but if you find some good mobile headphones, feel free to mention them as well.

 

I want to spend money on a dac or headphone amp.  

 

I don't really know what the main difference is between a closed and open back headphone...   I'm going to use the headphones for audio producing by the way. Genre: Pop, Rock (and maybe RnB)


Edited by The Known - 10/15/11 at 12:27pm
post #4 of 28

Ok so what music do you like and produce?

post #5 of 28

sennheiser hd 650s or maybe beyerdynamic dt 880, umm either one will work good out of a Fiio E7 + E9 combo or maybe if u buy the E10 which is a DAC/AMP and is quite good for the price.

 

hmm maybe some denon d2000s also, they don't need as good of amping and are good all-rounders as well.

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Ok so what music do you like and produce?


Pop, Rock  and maybe RnB

 

post #7 of 28

Yea, you could consider some of the Beyer line, 770, 880, 990. There is also the FA-11, gets recommended a lot around here. 

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Yea, you could consider some of the Beyer line, 770, 880, 990. There is also the FA-11, gets recommended a lot around here. 


Thanks. Is the sound quality of these headphones similar to the Bose Quietcomfort ones? And what is a headphone amp and why do you need it / is it really necessary?

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Thanks. Is the sound quality of these headphones similar to the Bose Quietcomfort ones? And what is a headphone amp and why do you need it / is it really necessary?



The sound quality of those headphones or probably every headphone recommended by expert folks here are quite better than Bose's (or Beats or Skullcandy,..) . You have to know that Bose belong to the mainstream market, so that normally means bad quality/price ratio. I have the 770 by the way. The size of your head really doesn't matter, what you need is to adjust for a proper fit.

 

If I were you and had the intention to use them for audio producing I would choose the Sennheiser HD600 (open back headphones). They are one of the most neutral cans out there. Even though Pop and Rock are genres that could benefit from a more fun and agressive EQ, what you need is a flat frequency response to know how it sounds without coloration. I own them so I can attest that.

 

The downside is that they need a proper headphone amp to sound fuller and reach their full potential. Normally portable/computers,.. have a weak headphone out that means that they don't provide enough drive (current/voltage/watts) and have a decent circuitry to bring the best to certain types of headphones. This has nothing to do with the desire volume in most cases, the HD600's need a proper headphone amp and ironically they are known to be quite sensitive headphones.

 

 


Edited by Beyerdynamico - 10/16/11 at 7:06am
post #10 of 28
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okay, thanks for the reply :)

What happens if I plug the Sennheiser HD600 into my iphone (without amp etc)? Will they just sound less good?

 

Because actually I was looking for headphones that sound great on PC, but I also want them to sound good on my ipod. I'll use them primarily for audio producing (on PC), but sometimes just on my ipod...

So what should I do?

- Buy ones that actually need an amp. Use an amp for usage with PC, no amp for iphone.

- Buy ones that don't need an amp at all.

 

Remember, I want good quality.

post #11 of 28

Are you going to be taking these headphones out with you? Is that why you need to use them with your iPhone?

 

If so, you might be better of with a separate portable headphone.

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Are you going to be taking these headphones out with you? Is that why you need to use them with your iPhone?

 

If so, you might be better of with a separate portable headphone.


Hmm.... I might consider that indeed... Can a mod move this topic to the 'portable headphone category'?

 

Ok. So I need a pair of mobile headphones, which are as good as (or better) than the Bose QC15.  I don't care about the noise cancelling, it's all about the sound for me. A little bit more bass than the Bose would be cool.

post #13 of 28

Maybe Sennheiser PXC 450's? They seem to be noise canceling. Not quite as good as Bose's ANC but it's still pretty good from what I'm seeing. Just a bit light on the bass though.

Nothing a bass boost EQ can't fix.

 

Otherwise, DT770's, ATH M-50, all are good suggestions. An HD598 might not hurt either if you're not getting an amp.


Edited by Byakushiki - 10/16/11 at 11:06am
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What exactly do you need to do in music producing ?

 

For a headphone that sounds very good with portable players, I'd highly recommend the DT1350.  Portable devices provide good bass response, a little woolly (just a little though) or not tight enough, but pretty rich and close to neutral in level.  I guess this shouldn't be a problem since you probably won't be doing any critical processing or listening going in the street or during travelling.  This is where good amplification (a DAC and an head amp) comes into play.  Assuming you'll use them for post-processing, or generally for monitoring, I suggest you also get proper amplification to get the most out of it.  These really benefit from amplification to my ears.  It tightens up the bass, clears everything up with it.  Low mids and generally the mids allows for full-bodied instruments and voice, also causing the sound to be slightly, just slightly warm (reminds me the warmth I heard from the LCD-2).  The highs do make up for this tiny warmth.  The (closely) neutral sound allows for studio reverb and sibilants to be heard easily.  You can't hear these great attributes from portable players, at least in my experience with the Sansa Clip+.

 

Alternatively you can go with IEMs.  I just sold an ER-4PT which I thought were really good for these purposes.  You will, however, have to be able to wear them for long sessions inside your ear canals (that's not always so easy).  I also haven't been able to do critical A/B of them being amped and unamped, I assume you'll want decent amplification for these (or other IEMs) too.

 

Edit, I couldn't figure out why the whole noise cancellation was mentioned, but for this matter - they isolate very well for me.


Edited by tbger99 - 10/22/11 at 4:21pm
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Thanks again for the comment. I think the best thing I can do is just go to a local store and listen to some headphones first. Also, to notice the difference between headphones going through an amp and headphones that don't need an amp.

Thanks for the replies guys!!

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