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Can you compare its sound to the SR71B's and in what aspects it did better?


That's a tough one, mainly because I never owned an SR-71B myself, and the listening rigs were different (LCD-2 with both, but Mk.III had CLAS, SR-71B had CD transport).  That said, the differences aren't night and day, and this one will probably come down to personal preference.  To my ears, I felt that bass was comparable, and both rendered mids and detail admirably, but the Rx Mk.III did better in the high end.  I really enjoyed female vocals through the Mk.III. I also thought the Mk.III did a bit better in terms of soundstage depth.  Again, I wish I had the chance to hook the HE-6 up to both the SR-71B and the ALO Rx Mk.III, but alas, I didn't have the presence of mind to do that.

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One more----one of the things that fascinates me is this pre-occupation with headphones over headphone amplifiers.  My own experience is that differences in amplifiers make a big difference on almost all headphones.  A lot of members appear to be investing circa. $1,000 plus in headphones and, yet, being quite stingy when it comes to amps.  It's hard for me to believe when I read, for example, something like "my Schitt Lyr sounded almost as good as the Eddie Current Balancing Act on my $2,000 Babubu wood inlaid Zuperoni headphones."

 

Is that really your experience, too?


 

Well, it is a headphone show ;^)>

Naturally I'm inclined to agree, that's why we have several different amps. However my experience at the show was that I couldn't hear subtle differences in my own gear that I heard quite clearly a few days before when I staged our setup in our listening room, nor could I know if I was hearing the best presentation of anyone else's amps, all simply because the environment at a show is too noisy. That is not at all a slight at the setup in the room, it was an excellent layout. It's simply impossible to have a room full of chatting people (what the show is really for, after all) and a quiet enough background to be able to make critical judgments. In fact I was discussing the loan of a pair of Sony R10s for the show, but we realized that we wouldn't really be able to appreciate them in that environment, and I will probably borrow them at a time when I can listen in my own room. One should probably use the show simply for what it is intended, a way to introduce one to a product that might warrant further audition in a better environment. 


Edited by Doc B. - 10/20/11 at 10:12am
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It seems to me that people should invent some portable sound-proof booth just like ancient public telephone booth on the street for such meet.  So they can really appreciate the gear while others enjoy their chatting outside.  I guarantee that whoever do it will make their gears sound 10x better than their competitors.  evil_smiley.gif
 

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Well, it is a headphone show ;^)>

Naturally I'm inclined to agree, that's why we have several different amps. However my experience at the show was that I couldn't hear subtle differences in my own gear that I heard quite clearly a few days before when I staged our setup in our listening room, nor could I know if I was hearing the best presentation of anyone else's amps, all simply because the environment at a show is too noisy. That is not at all a slight at the setup in the room, it was an excellent layout. It's simply impossible to have a room full of chatting people (what the show is really for, after all) and a quiet enough background to be able to make critical judgments. In fact I was discussing the loan of a pair of Sony R10s for the show, but we realized that we wouldn't really be able to appreciate them in that environment, and I will probably borrow them at a time when I can listen in my own room. One should probably use the show simply for what it is intended, a way to introduce one to a product that might warrant further audition in a better environment. 



 


Edited by dukja - 10/20/11 at 11:36am
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Mostly it was the center focus issue. This is the most important thing for me because a voice or instruments that should be center, not being centered, is very distracting to me. The focus on any can I put through the Darkstar was excellent.


That could easily be a tube or source issue as well and indicate nothing about the amp in actuality.  Would have been nice to get some EC impressions using the same Meridian RS was using.  

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Also, just to nip things in the bud before rumors and conjecture get out of hand, the Lyr does not sound as good as the Balancing Act.

 

Also, the reports about the ALO Rx3 do not sound encouraging IMO.  

 


Edited by Anaxilus - 10/20/11 at 12:36pm
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I agree. The LCD2 on the BA sounded quite a bit better than the Lyr. The Lyr puts the power through, but doesn't sound as clean and smooth, even with the new Bifrost (which I own and have found to be very smooth and clean). I didn't care for either of them with the center issues both had, but the rest had the BA on top.
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I'm listening to my BA right now. Source is a WFS DAC-2. I think source/source material may be accountable for what you perceived as a center focus issue. I'm not picking up on any focus issue whatsoever. In fact, the focus is smack dab in the middle (at least that's how I'm perceiving it). It's really tough to compare, seeing as there are so many factors at play. I'm also not using the same driver tube Craig was at his booth.


Edited by GMF2010 - 10/20/11 at 1:11pm
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Could be. I was actually fairly surprised by how all over the map the center focus was for rigs around the room at RMAF. From the worst being LCD3 on the Pinnacle to best being anything on the Darkstar or the A-10 and the UERM. The variance was interesting to hear how many separate 'focus grades' there were. When I first began this trek I'd only found this center focus acceptable on IEMs, and while I think most IEMs will outperform most full size headphones in this regard, I've now been educated that it is possible to have good center focus on full size cans. I still bought custom IEMs, but I'll keep an open mind about full size phones now.
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I'm listening to my BA right now. Source is a WFS DAC-2. I think source/source material may be accountable for what you perceived as a center focus issue. I'm not picking up on any focus issue whatsoever. In fact, the focus is smack dab in the middle (at least that's how I'm perceiving it). It's really tough to compare, seeing as there are so many factors at play. I'm also not using the same driver tube Craig was at his booth.


Do you recall what driver tube Craig was using over at RMAF?  

 

I could tell he was also using six stock Tung Sol 6SN7 GTBs in the super7's output by looking at the pic.  That's the thing w/ Craig, he doesn't juice up everything in the chain when he does demos, usually let's you hear it the way he sells it.    

 

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Do you happen to recall which tubes were in the BA?


 

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Asked him as he was packing up. 6F8G and PX4KR.

 

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max did you use your own music to make sure it wasn't just something on the recording? A lot of recordings have vocals a little off center. I've personally never heard a headphone yet whose drivers were so mismatched as to cause this sort of channel imbalance, not even from ibuds.
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Alternatively, perhaps it was how the headphones were positioned on his head? If I remember right, the 007MK2 is especially susceptible to this. 

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I'll also confirm that, at least for the SR007A MK2, the position of the headphones on one's head makes a big difference in both the fullness and directionality of the sound (particularly with guitar, drums, and vocals).  I've noticed the same thing with the LCD2s, but not as prominently as with the SR007A.

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max did you use your own music to make sure it wasn't just something on the recording? A lot of recordings have vocals a little off center. I've personally never heard a headphone yet whose drivers were so mismatched as to cause this sort of channel imbalance, not even from ibuds.

It's not so much it being off center as it is coming from the vicinity of center but either fuzzy in its direction or having a gap in the middle. For instance, you are standing in front of someone with a solid board between you. He speaks in you direction and you would normally hear it as coming straight at you, but with the board in the way you hear it coming from center but all the details of the voice are coming from the sides of the board leaving a dull gap in the middle. Some rigs had a full on gap, most had an indistinct center, maybe a fabric sheet instead of a board, some had nothing in the way at all, speaking metaphorically.
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Moar MKIII impressions with LCD2 please. Comparisons vs. SR71B?
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Brilliant job @ sridhar3, @ maxvla and many others ...

 

Thanks guys!

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