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Jason told me $650-750 at RMAF.
 

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Originally Posted by Kremer930 View Post

Wow. I thought that $750 was the intermediate balanced amp and that the statement was reported to be on or around the $1k mark. Are you sure that the statement will only cost $750?

 

 



 

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Originally Posted by OzarkTom View Post

Jason told me $650-750 at RMAF. 



Cross-posts from http://www.head-fi.org/t/570919/new-balanced-schiit-amps-the-information-and-anticipation-thread/15#post_7830552 :

 


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Originally Posted by koonhua90 View Post

Emailed Schiit Audio and got a reply from Jason himself, statement amp will run $1200 to $1500. The $750 one will be mid tier.

 

Should be out by Q1 2012, but there is no guarantee.

 

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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

Hey guys,

 

We're trying not to announce any more details until the amps are available, but I can confirm the following:

 

1. The prices stated above are at least in the ballpark. We have to finalize the BOM before we can set final prices, so don't be surprised if it changes.

 

2. Both balanced amps will indeed use the same topology.

 

I probably won't be able to answer many more questions, I'm afraid.

 

All the best,

Jason

 

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Originally Posted by chicostein View Post

On page 21 or so there is a nice discussion of this recent trend of "exorbitant" prices for recent high-end gear. When people compare the price of an older generation of $350 high-end headphones with the current one at $1500, there is no mention of all the inflation in the 10/15 years between the generations and the fact that this stuff does not benefit from cheap labor in China. Add in the low volume sales these products have, the limited distribution etc.Not that I disagree that bling sells, and it is sad to watch this trend progress. Hell, even venerable B&W is selling expensive toys of brushed aluminun and stitched (not sure) leather in every Apple Store. They even changed the logo, from classic "B&W" to the pompous "Bowers & Wilkins".

By the way, nice article on Wired about B&O: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/09/ff_bando/

 

 


I went to a lot of the audio rooms and priced a lot of stuff. One of my favorite systems would cost 400K. Nordost had a power cable that sells for 13K, and somewhere there was some speaker cables that are 30K. $1945 for LCD3's sounds like a huge bargain in comparison.
 

 

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Jason must have missed my question about the Statement amp, sorry about that.
 

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Originally Posted by OzarkTom View Post

Jason told me $650-750 at RMAF. 

 



 

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I really enjoyed the Super 7 amp from my last experience with it and the LCD 2s. How well do you guys think it handles the LCD 3s? This may have been posted if I missed it sorry.
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Originally Posted by Kremer930 View Post

I would like to add that Jason and Mike have been in the high end market previously.  They have made a decision to provide value to the market.  How many companies put out a statement amp at $1k?  From what I know of the capabilities of the Statement amp this will be fantastic value.  Wait until yo are able to compare the Dark Star to the Schiit offering....then determine value or maximum profits....

 

And cheaper Schiit means more left for a poor mans 009's...the LCD3!  Well hopefully. 

 


I listened to the Dark Star and the HE6's. That was the best I have ever heard on the HE6's. Then I switched to the LCD2's with the Dark Star. That is the worst I have ever heard the on the LCD2's. It sounded way too dark.
 

 

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Originally Posted by OzarkTom View Post

I listened to the Dark Star and the HE6's. That was the best I have ever heard on the HE6's. Then I switched to the LCD2's with the Dark Star. That is the worst I have ever heard the on the LCD2's. It sounded way too dark. 

 



Ray should have named it the "Bright yet Neutral Star" ;O)

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I don't think the LCD-2 responds well to excess power. I love the HE-6 out of my speaker amp but not so much the LCD-2 which I really like out of the WA22 (with the right tubes). Personally I didn't care for the LCD-2 out of the Lyr either, but I did think the Lyr was great with K701s.

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

I don't think the LCD-2 responds well to excess power. I love the HE-6 out of my speaker amp but not so much the LCD-2 which I really like out of the WA22 (with the right tubes). Personally I didn't care for the LCD-2 out of the Lyr either, but I did think the Lyr was great with K701s.


Hi Vince...I would agree that the HE-6s respond to more power than the LCD-2s, but I still find the LCD-2s (being orthos) are far from Grado's with respect to power. They still respond to more juice. Pop in the 6080 tubes in your WA22 and listen to what you hear.

 

FWIW, I find the Lyr/LCD-2 a very good clean combination and better than many $1000 amps I've heard them with. That said, I prefer my WA22 (with the 7236 or 5998 tubes) as well.

 

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On the subject of the LCD 2 (per the usual around here :D ) 

 

Did anyone hear it on the Phonitor? I want one sooooooooooo bad. Being a tweaker...
 

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

I don't think the LCD-2 responds well to excess power. I love the HE-6 out of my speaker amp but not so much the LCD-2 which I really like out of the WA22 (with the right tubes). Personally I didn't care for the LCD-2 out of the Lyr either, but I did think the Lyr was great with K701s.



 

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Hi Vince...I would agree that the HE-6s respond to more power than the LCD-2s, but I still find the LCD-2s (being orthos) are far from Grado's with respect to power. They still respond to more juice. Pop in the 6080 tubes in your WA22 and listen to what you hear.

 

FWIW, I find the Lyr/LCD-2 a very good clean combination and better than many $1000 amps I've heard them with. That said, I prefer my WA22 (with the 7236 or 5998 tubes) as well.

 

That's a good point, that there are limits to everything. The LCD-2 does like power but still doesn't need that much compared to the HiFiMANs or AKGs. I used to drive the LCD-2 and the HD800 at the same time out of the WA22 and found that they both improved being driven one at a time.


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I think it's time we blow this scene. Get everybody and the stuff together. Ok, three, two, one, let's jam.

 

CANJAM

 

ALO Audio

 

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ALO Prototype tube amp

 

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ALO Prototype tube amp

 

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ALO Prototype tube amp with tube cage off

 

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MHDT Havana (DAC for prototype tube amp)

 

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Red Wine Audio Corvina headphone amp

 

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ALO Rx MK.3-B portable headphone amp

 

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ALO Rx MK.3-B portable headphone amp

 

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ALO Rx MK.3-B portable headphone amp with Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo DAC

 

 

Audez'e

 

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ALO Rx MK.3-B portable headphone amp with Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo DAC, Audez'e LCD-3 headphones (all atop Red Wine Audio Isabella Audez'e Edition headphone amp)

 

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Test rigs: DACmini DAC/headphone amp, Cavalli Audio Liquid Fire headphone amp, Eddie Current 2A3 headphone amp

 

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Audez'e banner

 

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Test rigs, Klutz Design stand

 

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Red Wine Audio Isabella Audez'e Edition headphone amp

 

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Audez'e Spitfire microphone

 

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Cavalli Audio Liquid Fire headphone amp

 

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Audez'e LCD-3 headphones on Klutz Design stand

 

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Eddie Current 2A3 headphone amp

 

 

Bottlehead

 

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Reel-to-reel

 

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Bottlehead Smack headphone amp

 

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Bottlehead BottleNagra headphone amp

 

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Bottlehead Crack headphone amp

 

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Bottlehead S.E.X. 2.1 headphone/speaker amp

 

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AKG K1000 earspeakers

 

 

Cavalli Audio

 

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Cavalli Audio Liquid Lightning prototype electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Oppo and Marantz transports

 

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Stax O2 Mk.1 with Cavalli Audio Liquid Lightning prototype electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Cavalli Audio Liquid Lightning prototype electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Stax O2 Mk.1 with Cavalli Audio Liquid Lightning prototype electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Liquid Lightning placard (with specs)

 

 

CEntrance

 

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CEntrance DACmini DAC/headphone amp

 

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CEntrance DACmini PX (DAC/preamp/power amp/headphone amp) atop nearfield monitor

 

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CEntrance DACmini PX rear (speaker outs to banana plug adapter to HE-6)

 

 

Eddie Current

 

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Eddie Current phono pre, Super 7 headphone amp (with cardboard top), Sony CD transport

 

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Eddie Current Balancing Act headphone amp

 

 

Fostex

 

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Fostex HP-A3 DAC/headphone amp

 

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Fostex HP-P1 portable DAC/headphone amp

 

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Fostex T40RP Mk.II and T20RP Mk.II headphones

 

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Fostex HP-P1 portable DAC/headphone amp

 

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Fostex HP-A3 DAC/headphone amp

 

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Fostex T50RP orthodynamic headphones

 

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Fostex TH900 prototype dynamic headphones

 

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Fostex TH900 prototype dynamic headphones

 

 

HeadAmp

 

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HeadAmp Blue Hawaii SE electrostatic headphone amp

 

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HeadAmp Blue Hawaii SE electrostatic headphone amp power supply

 

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Stax O2 Mk.II electrostatic headphones

 

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Grado RS-1 headphones, Pico DAC, Pico slim portable headphone amp

 

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Stax SR-009 electrostatic headphones

 

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Stax O2 Mk.I electrostatic headphones

 

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Stax SR-009 electrostatic headphones with Blue Hawaii SE electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Blue Hawaii SE electrostatic headphone amp

 

 

HeadDirect (HiFiMan)

 

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HiFiMan HE-300 dynamic headphones, HiFiMan HE-500 orthodynamic headphones

 

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HiFiMan EF6 headphone amp

 

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HiFiMan HE-6 orthodynamic headphones with HiFiMan EF6 headphone amp

 

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HiFiMan EF6 headphone amp

 

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HiFiMan HE-300 dynamic headphone

 

 

JH Audio

 

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JH Audio booth

 

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JH-3A ADC/DAC/DSP/headphone amp

 

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Jerry Harvey of JH Audio

 

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JH-3A ADC/DAC/DSP/headphone amp

 

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JH-3A ADC/DAC/DSP/headphone amp

 

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JH16 Pro in ear monitors

 

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Halide Design Bridge USB-to-S/PDIF converter

 

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JH16 Pro in ear monitors

 

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JH16 Pro in ear monitors

 

 

Moon Audio

 

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Cary Audio Design CAD300-SEI speaker/headphone amp, Cary Audio Design Xciter DAC, Cary Audio Design Music Server, Sennheiser HD 800 headphones, Audez'e LCD-2 headphones, Ultrasone Edition 10 headphones

 

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HiFiMan HE-6 headphones, Grado RS-1 headphones, Stello CDT100 transport, Grace M903 DAC/headphone amp, unknown Wadia products

 

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More stuff than I care to list: Burson, Beyerdynamic, Ultrasone, IQube, Fostex, Cypher Labs, Ray Samuels Audio

 

 

Ray Samuels Audio

 

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Ray Samuels Audio Dark Star headphone amp

 

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Boulder CD transport

 

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Ray Samuels Audio A-10 Thunderbolt electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Sennheiser Orpheus HE90 electrostatic headphones

 

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Sennheiser Orpheus HE90 electrostatic headphones

 

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Sennheiser Orpheus HE90 electrostatic headphones

 

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Ray Samuels Audio Apache headphone amp

 

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Ray Samuels Audio B-52 headphone amp

 

 

Schiit

 

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Schiit Bifrost DAC

 

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Schiit Lyr headphone amp, Schiit Bifrost DAC

 

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Beyerdynamic DT990, Schiit Asgard headphone amp, Schiit Valhalla headphone amp

 

 

Sennheiser

 

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HeadRoom Micro Amp, Headroom Desktop Amp with power supply, Resonessence Labs Invicta DAC/headphone amp, Schiit Asgard headphone amp, Sennheiser RS 220 wireless headphones, Arcam CD transport

 

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HeadRoom Micro Amp, Headroom Desktop Amp with power supply

 

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Sennheiser RS 220 wireless headphones

 

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Resonessence Labs Invicta DAC/headphone amp, Arcam CD transport

 

 

SPL

 

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SPL 2Control

 

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SPL Phonitor Headphone amp

 

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SPL Phonitor headphone amp, SPL Auditor headphone amp

 

 

TTVJ (Apex)

 

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Apex Pinnacle headphone amp

 

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Meridian CD transport, Beyerdynamic Tesla T1 headphones, Sennheiser HD 800 headphones, Audez'e LCD-2 headphones

 

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Esoteric CD transport

 

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Apex Peak headphone amp, Apex Volcano power supply, Sennheiser HD 800 headphones

 

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Luxman gear

 

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Luxman headphone amp

 

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Apex Pinnacle headphone amp

 

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Apex Peak headphone amp

 

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Esoteric CD transport

 

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Antelope Zodiac Gold DAC/headphone amp

 

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Antelope Zodiac Gold DAC/headphone amp

 

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Audez'e LCD-3 orthodynamic headphones

 

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Audez'e LCD-3 orthodynamic headphones

 

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Meridian CD transport, Apex Pinnacle headphone amp, Antelope Zodiac Gold DAC/headphone amp

 

 

Woo Audio

 

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Woo Audio WA2 headphone amp

 

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Beyerdynamic T70p headphones, AKG K701 headphones, Woo Audio WA6 headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WA2 headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WDS-1 DAC

 

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Woo Audio WDS-1 DAC

 

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Woo Audio WA6-SE headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WA22 headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WA22 headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WTP-1 CD transport, Woo Audio WDS-1 DAC

 

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Woo Audio WA5-LE headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WA5-LE headphone amp power supply

 

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Woo Audio WA5-LE headphone amp with power supply

 

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Woo Audio WES electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio WES electrostatic headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio 234 monoblock headphone amp

 

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Woo Audio 234 monoblock headphone amp, Woo Audio WTP-1 CD transport, Woo Audio WDS-1 DAC

 

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Woo Audio 234 monoblock headphone amp, Woo Audio WTP-1 CD transport, Woo Audio WDS-1 DAC, Sennheiser HD 800 headphones

 

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Woo Audio 234 monoblock headphone amp

 

 

Pictures of RMAF to follow.


Edited by sridhar3 - 10/18/11 at 6:50pm
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Let's kick the beat!

 

RMAF

 

Amarra

 

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M2Tech Young DAC, Audez'e LCD-2 headphones, Audioengine D1 DAC, Audioengine 5+ nearfield monitors, unknown Bel Canto device

 

 

April Music

 

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Eximus DP1 DAC/headphone amp, Aura Neo CD transport/DAC

 

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Sennheiser HD 800 headphones

 

 

Audez'e (RMAF room)

 

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Audez'e linear array speakers, Modwright speaker amplifiers

 

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Modwright speaker amplifiers

 

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Almost floor to ceiling

 

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Audez'e Reality-1 nearfield monitors

 

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Really good demo CD

 

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Audez'e Spitfire microphone

 

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Audez'e Spitfire Microphone

 

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Audez'e Spitfire microphone

 

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Audez'e Reality-1 nearfield monitors

 

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Audez'e Reality-1 nearfield monitors

 

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Audez'e Reality-1 nearfield monitors

 

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Audez'e Reality-1 nearfield monitors

 

 

Ayre Acoustics

 

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Ayre Acoustics QB-9

 

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Benchmark Media Systems

 

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Benchmark DACs

 

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Cary Audio Design

 

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dCS

 

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HeadRoom

 

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HeadRoom stacks

 

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Tektron headphone amp

 

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HeadRoom stacks, Denon D7000 headphones, Sennheiser HD 800 headphones, Sennheiser HD 650 headphones

 

 

Jolida

 

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Jolida tube amps

 

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Ergo 1 headphones

 

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Jolida tube headphone amp

 

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Ergo 1 headphones

 

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Martin Logan

 

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Martin Logan Montis speakers

 

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McIntosh speaker amplifier

 

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McIntosh stack

 

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Martin Logan Montis speakers, McIntosh speaker amp

 

 

mbl

 

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MSB Technology

 

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Mytek Digital

 

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Mytek Digital DAC/headphone amp

 

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Mytek Digital DAC/headphone amp

 

 

Olive

 

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Olive music servers

 

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Peachtree Audio

 

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Peachtree iDecco

 

 

Q

 

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Q Cables by Steve Eddy

 

 

Red Wine Audio

 

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Audez'e LCD-2 headphones, Red Wine Audio Isabella Audez'e Edition headphone amp

 

 

Resonessence Labs

 

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Resonessence Labs Invicta DAC/headphone amp

 

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Sonicweld

 

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Sonicweld Diverter USB-to-S/PDIF converters

 

 

Wavelength Audio

 

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Wavelength USB-to-S/PDIF converters and DACs

 

 

Wyred 4 Sound

 

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Wyred 4 Sound DACs

 

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Zu Audio

 

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Whole ton of random shots taken throughout RMAF (no captions)

 

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Ninety more pictures to upload.  Will post them as soon as possible.

 


Edited by sridhar3 - 10/19/11 at 8:34am
post #450 of 678

Thanks for the effort!

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