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I have seen it physically on the newest shipment of LCD-3's :)

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Pics, or it didn't happen. wink.gif
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Looking at the pics would I be correct to say the original LCD-3 has 8 ribs inside the earcups and the fazor version has 6 ribs?I would assume this would be the best and easiest way to check which version you have.
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Originally Posted by dfarina View Post

Looking at the pics would I be correct to say the original LCD-3 has 8 ribs inside the earcups and the fazor version has 6 ribs?I would assume this would be the best and easiest way to check which version you have.

Here's a photo of an actual LCD-XC with the cup removed. 8 ribs there. Just like my LCD-3.



The exploded view showing Fazors with 6 ribs is misleading:

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Originally Posted by dfarina View Post

Looking at the pics would I be correct to say the original LCD-3 has 8 ribs inside the earcups and the fazor version has 6 ribs?I would assume this would be the best and easiest way to check which version you have.

I got an LCD-3 and a LCD-XC direct from Audeze in March and they both appear to have more than 6 ribs (Just eyeballed it and the top or bottom ones are close to the earpads.

 

The two cans do not sound the same, but I love them both.

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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post

I got an LCD-3 and a LCD-XC direct from Audeze in March and they both appear to have more than 6 ribs (Just eyeballed it and the top or bottom ones are close to the earpads.

The two cans do not sound the same, but I love them both.

What are the differences in sound? Very curious since both have fazor
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What are the differences in sound? Very curious since both have fazor

The sound has definitely changed while they or my other gear has been breaking in, but I feel pretty confident saying the following so far:

  • The sensitivity specs seem accurate. The LCD-3 is definitely less sensitive than the LCD-XC. I've never gone above 12 o'clock with the LCD-XC, but I have with the LCD-3 on a few select tracks.
  • The LCD-XC is brighter than the LCD-3. However, I don't think they are overly bright when paired with the V800/V200.
  • The LCD-3 is definitely darker than the LCD-XC with noticeably different bass. The LCD-3's bass is the closest thing to speakers that I've ever felt. I don't blast my headphones per se, but on a good bass drum kick, you FEEL the thump on an LCD-3. The LCD-XC is no slouch, but it's more like hearing a tight bass drum vs feeling it. I think that's the best way I could describe it in words. Neither feels remotely muddy. Impact and prat are definitely there in spades for both.
  • I would not personally pair the LCD-XC with an ALO Pan Am long term.

 

In short, they do NOT sound the same. I've never knowingly listened to an older model of the LCD-3 to which I could draw relative comparisons.

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^ Good information beerchug.gif
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Originally Posted by BeyerMonster View Post

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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

What are the differences in sound? Very curious since both have fazor
The sound has definitely changed while they or my other gear has been breaking in, but I feel pretty confident saying the following so far:
  • The sensitivity specs seem accurate. The LCD-3 is definitely less sensitive than the LCD-XC. I've never gone above 12 o'clock with the LCD-XC, but I have with the LCD-3 on a few select tracks.
  • The LCD-XC is brighter than the LCD-3. However, I don't think they are overly bright when paired with the V800/V200.
  • The LCD-3 is definitely darker than the LCD-XC with noticeably different bass. The LCD-3's bass is the closest thing to speakers that I've ever felt. I don't blast my headphones per se, but on a good bass drum kick, you FEEL the thump on an LCD-3. The LCD-XC is no slouch, but it's more like hearing a tight bass drum vs feeling it. I think that's the best way I could describe it in words. Neither feels remotely muddy. Impact and prat are definitely there in spades for both.
  • I would not personally pair the LCD-XC with an ALO Pan Am long term.

In short, they do NOT sound the same. I've never knowingly listened to an older model of the LCD-3 to which I could draw relative comparisons.
Can you say for sure your LCD-3 has the fazor?At this stage I am really confused as to tell the difference?
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Good question dfarina.

Supposedly the changeover occurred in December and as both units were bought direct in March the LCD3 should be fazor equipped...but would be nice to know how to tell for sure. A change in start of serial no?
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Easiest way to tell is the 'ribs' on the pad side of the driver - they are spiked up rather than just flat.


Edit: the one i have here starts with 271 on the serial too - any different from old?


Edited by Revogamer - 4/6/14 at 10:20pm
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Easiest way to tell is the 'ribs' on the pad side of the driver - they are spiked up rather than just flat.


Edit: the one i have here starts with 271 on the serial too - any different from old?

 

Yes...up until recently LCD-3s started 231 or 261. 231 was the problem era for Audeze with the LCD-3 and once they sorted out some of the driver and driver material issues (felt vs foam etc) then they started using 261. Seems the fazor ones start 271 then.

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Easiest way to tell is the 'ribs' on the pad side of the driver - they are spiked up rather than just flat.


Edit: the one i have here starts with 271 on the serial too - any different from old?

Yes...up until recently LCD-3s started 231 or 261. 231 was the problem era for Audeze with the LCD-3 and once they sorted out some of the driver and driver material issues (felt vs foam etc) then they started using 261. Seems the fazor ones start 271 then.
That makes sense,wonder what would be involved in upgrading an original LCD-3 to the fazor?Would it just be a matter of swapping out the grills or are the drivers also different??
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That makes sense,wonder what would be involved in upgrading an original LCD-3 to the fazor?Would it just be a matter of swapping out the grills or are the drivers also different??

 

From the picture above of the outside section of an XC, the fazors are bolted to the driver (on both sides of it). The question is do the holes line up so that its just a question of using longer bolts and adding a piece of metal, or is it more complicated than that. Would Audeze let people do this themselves? I think probably not although that would be the only option for me as I am in the UK and would not want to be without my headphones for weeks to do this.

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Fazors look like a direct bolt on for the LCD-3. Not so much for the LCD-2
Edited by Jones Bob - 4/7/14 at 8:58am
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