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Each day, I've been noticing more and more that these are less forgiving than what I originally thought. Definitely less forgiving than LCD-2 and HE-500.

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

Each day, I've been noticing more and more that these are less forgiving than what I originally thought. Definitely less forgiving than LCD-2 and HE-500.

 

Yes. They can actually end-up sounding bright and make you hate your life. That's only IF your downstream is like that. Because as opposed to the LCD-2s they have a more decent treble response. Most people are more sensitive to treble response above other frequency bands. 


Edited by negura - 10/26/13 at 12:45pm
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I can agree about the forwardness part in terms of positioning, in particular to vocals. Otherwise not how I hear it. The LCD-3 has improved transients (better attack and faster decays) and better transparency. The LCD-2 is more laid back and mellowed. But to summarize the LCD-3 just sounds a whole level up from the LCD-2s. If one can snatch an used LCD2s to walk through that level and see if they like the house sound and all that, by all means do it. They are nice headphones.

 

A lot of people worry a lot about milimeters with the bass. All the top headphones have great bass. Yes, that includes the Audezes but also the HD800s, the HE6, Stax 007s, 009s etc. Imho there are much more important aspects to sound quality (transients, transparency, tonal balance, soundstage & imaging etc). 

 

bass is still important. the LCD-2 i liked that it went deep, though the bass down by the sub-bass had a faster decay than LCD-3 and was a little lighter. i liked that it was punchy though and more impactful.

 

the HE-6 for example have slightly less bass than HE-500, but its close enough it doesn't matter, the HE-6 goes alot deeper than HE-500, more controlled, and doesn't ever get wooly like the HE-500.

 

the LCD-3 just seems a little too polite in the bass at times. i really wish it was more engaging. 

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bass is still important. the LCD-2 i liked that it went deep, though the bass down by the sub-bass had a faster decay than LCD-3 and was a little lighter. i liked that it was punchy though and more impactful.

 

the HE-6 for example have slightly less bass than HE-500, but its close enough it doesn't matter, the HE-6 goes alot deeper than HE-500, more controlled, and doesn't ever get wooly like the HE-500.

 

the LCD-3 just seems a little too polite in the bass at times. i really wish it was more engaging. 

 

I wonder if sample variance has anything to do with this. I didnt get that impression with my LCD-2.2s and 3s. The 3s bested the 2s in bass. The quality improvement to me was obvious and didn't notice any drop in quantity. One of my conclusions was that because the LCD-2s have less going on in the upper tiers of frequency they could apear to be more bass (and mids) centric.

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LCD-2 had more slam and punch. the LCD-3 just have a little more sub-bass but it seems more laid back and not as fun in the bass. 

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What cable are you using with the 3s DG?
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right now moon audio balanced silver dragon with rhodium xlr's.

 

before that a single-ended molecule from double helix cables

 

the bass is better on balanced, but still not LCD-2 bass.  and it won't happen, the LCD-2's are darker and are more bassy, which i think works better with some music. no doubt the LCD-3 is the better headphone, but it seems to be more neutral and balanced rather than fun with great bass.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 10/26/13 at 2:09pm
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Try the stock cable for a while. You could be surprised smily_headphones1.gif DAT BASS!
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For what it's worth I didn't like the drying out effect the SD had on the Audeze line.

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Try the stock cable for a while. You could be surprised smily_headphones1.gif DAT BASS!

 

don't have the stock cable unfortunately, the one i bought came without cable. 

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I didn't hear the SD but recently I tried the stock on the 3s for the first time and it just has much more bass (sometimes too much) and intimacy.
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Try the stock cable for a while. You could be surprised smily_headphones1.gif DAT BASS!

 

Stock is copper wire isn't it? It does sound like that to me, so any aftermarket copper should also do.

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Not so sure that an aftermarket copper would have so much body and intimacy. Aftermarket OCC high purity copper tends to tighten de bass and add some air.
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Not so sure that an aftermarket copper would have so much body and intimacy. Aftermarket OCC high purity copper tends to tighten de bass and add some air.

 

There are exceptions I agree. The stock is not great as copper cables go. It is of course more bottom tilted than say silver or SPC cables. From my experience run of the mill OCC copper will keep all the positives of stock and more at the bottom, with a cleaner background and slightly better instrument separation and resolution. Don't want to overblow the differences. It's what you'd normally expect from a cable swap.


Edited by negura - 10/26/13 at 2:19pm
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Using a Q cable, I find sometimes the LCD-2.2 has too much bass...and I love bass! Something else pointing me in the direction of the LCD-3/Mjolnir. :happy_face1:

 

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Keep in mind that the Gungnir brings the warmth, shifts the tonal balance down and slows some of that attack.  So you may want to get just the Mjolnir first.

 

Aye. My Rega is a warm too. What other DAC around $1000 would be compatible to keep that attack?

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