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post #8236 of 9799

More importantly... extended yoke posts are back :O

post #8237 of 9799
So no LCD-4 as some of you thought smily_headphones1.gif Phew...
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Evening :)

 

Upon acquiring the setup you see in my signature, and absolutely loving the speakers (the depth an clarity is amazing while still musical), the LCD2.2s now sound veiled to me, I finally get what people have been saying.

 

Might be upgrade time.

 

How much do the LCD-3s punch through that veil, or is another headphone a better option?

 

I'd like about 25% more performance in terms of clarity, separation and stage, but still love the smoothness.

 

I realise this has probably been asked and answered a lot - and I *have* searched, and this thread is 550 pages long (I have work to do) :)

 

Time to audition some HD800's perhaps? (Doubt it.) Or is there a smoother and more clinical alternative?

 

Does the LCD3 do that perfectly?

 

Any pointers - no matter how brief - would be appreciated!


Edited by Yoga - 9/5/13 at 4:12pm
post #8239 of 9799

I found the LCD-3s lose a bit of impact in exchange for clarity. However, I've switched back to HD-800s now. They can, however, sound a bit too thin whereas the Audeze cans can be a bit too dull. 

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Originally Posted by Yoga View Post
 

Evening :)

 

Upon acquiring the setup you see in my signature, and absolutely loving the speakers (the depth an clarity is amazing while still musical), the LCD2.2s now sound veiled to me, I finally get what people have been saying.

 

Might be upgrade time.

 

How much do the LCD-3s punch through that veil, or is another headphone a better option?

 

I'd like about 25% more performance in terms of clarity, separation and stage, but still love the smoothness.

 

I realise this has probably been asked and answered a lot - and I *have* searched, and this thread is 550 pages long (I have work to do) :)

 

Time to audition some HD800's perhaps? (Doubt it.) Or is there a smoother and more clinical alternative?

 

Does the LCD3 do that perfectly?

 

Any pointers - no matter how brief - would be appreciated!

 

Compared to my speakers which I hear as neutral (which to me means nor bright nor dark) on any good track, the Audeze will always sound dark and I guess we could also say "veiled". Both the LCD-3s and 2s. However compared with the LCD-2s the LCD-3s are a clear cut above, as they are more open and have better clarity and resolution. They are still dark sounding headphones, which can also be a plus obviously based on preferences, as it gives a relaxed appealing presentation (but more lively than the LCD-2s).

 

The HD800s compare well in clarity, separation and soundstage to the speakers, but they are a bit edgy on the treble and untamed (read in stock unmodded form) sometimes a bit bright. They still don't match the soundstaging and imaging capabilities of speakers though, but are close enough.  Because they are not as easy to live with as my other headphones, I ended up selling the HD800s after a while, but kept the LCD-3s.


Edited by negura - 9/5/13 at 4:43pm
post #8241 of 9799
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Originally Posted by Yoga View Post
 

Evening :)

 

Upon acquiring the setup you see in my signature, and absolutely loving the speakers (the depth an clarity is amazing while still musical), the LCD2.2s now sound veiled to me, I finally get what people have been saying.

 

Might be upgrade time.

 

How much do the LCD-3s punch through that veil, or is another headphone a better option?

 

I'd like about 25% more performance in terms of clarity, separation and stage, but still love the smoothness.

 

I realise this has probably been asked and answered a lot - and I *have* searched, and this thread is 550 pages long (I have work to do) :)

 

Time to audition some HD800's perhaps? (Doubt it.) Or is there a smoother and more clinical alternative?

 

Does the LCD3 do that perfectly?

 

Any pointers - no matter how brief - would be appreciated!

 

Yea, the LCD-3 definitely improve on that veil and speed things up a bit. More details and further improved transparency.

 

When I came off LCD-2 to LCD-3, I definitely didn't like the loss of mid-bass impact. Although now I'm used to it and like it quite a bit. Also, LCD-3 has more sub bass presence. After three months with LCD-3, I think LCD-2 was actually more smoother. At first the mid range seemed elevated and smoothed out, but not true. It's just so responsive that at first it can seem a bit smoothed out.

 

Regardless of how you interpret it, I'm sure you'll find it pleasing (within time) :)

post #8242 of 9799

Thanks guys!

 

Might have to try and audition some LCD-3s (a big outlay in the UK without an audition). Not a fan of brightness so I think that counts the HD800s out (hence I've avoided them so far).

 

Expensive, this audiophile lark :¬)

 

Tangent: this album is amazing. A great gear test:

 

Nils Lofgren – Acoustic Live

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What's the best a,p DAC combo for the lcd3s in the 2k range? Also how do I know my phones are the newest revision? My ser#'is roughly 2615400. Thanks
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What's the best a,p DAC combo for the lcd3s in the 2k range? Also how do I know my phones are the newest revision? My ser#'is roughly 2615400. Thanks

 

Absolutely floored with the Bryston BDA-2. MSRP is $2395, but if you look, you can find one for about $2000-2100. For under $2k, I really liked the W4S DAC-2 when I had it.

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Any thoughts on a speaker amp. A few gave this amp amazing reviews.....

http://www.odysseyaudio.com/products-cyclops.html
post #8246 of 9799

Speaker amps tend to have high gain which makes it hell for both noise and volume control on headphones.  Some exceptions though, First Watt has gain settings that aren't designed to fool you into thinking because you are at 9 o'clock that you have lots of power on tap when the reality is you clip at 10 o'clock ;)  It's a rare trait though.  To be fair, some headphone amps do the same.

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Absolutely floored with the Bryston BDA-2. MSRP is $2395, but if you look, you can find one for about $2000-2100. For under $2k, I really liked the W4S DAC-2 when I had it.

 

It would be interesting to compare the BDA-2 with the Master 7.  Audio-GD DACs (Ref 7.1) was known to kill the Bryston DAC at the time (BDA-1).

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It would be interesting to compare the BDA-2 with the Master 7.  Audio-GD DACs (Ref 7.1) was known to kill the Bryston DAC at the time (BDA-1).

 

Yah +1.

 

On one hand, M7, in terms of technical specs very very solid. Personal reviews, yeh pretty good, odd complaint here and there.

 

Other hand, Bryston DAC BDA-2, MH hype factor+++.

 

Both very equal footing imo :P

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

It would be interesting to compare the BDA-2 with the Master 7.  Audio-GD DACs (Ref 7.1) was known to kill the Bryston DAC at the time (BDA-1).

 

The BDA-1 never motivated me enough to buy it. But the BDA-2 is a whole new ballgame IMO. It bests the PWD2 (another DAC that never motivated me enough to pick one up). 

post #8250 of 9799
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

The BDA-1 never motivated me enough to buy it. But the BDA-2 is a whole new ballgame IMO. It bests the PWD2 (another DAC that never motivated me enough to pick one up). 

 

Well - in your opinion.  IMO all these DACS in this price range are all side grades at best.  Each one doing things only slightly better than the other.  In blind test.  I'm betting my dime to anyones donuts no difference can be told.

 

I sold the Master 7 and selling the PWD2 as well.  Time to step it up and see what the 5K DACS can do.

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