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post #7846 of 9585
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Not sure about the ODAC, although the O2 with both LCD-2 and LCD-3 is quite horrible.

Can't say I disagree. However plenty of people out there live with it and some even love it. 

post #7847 of 9585
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Can't say I disagree. However plenty of people out there live with it and some even love it. 

 

Maybe for acoustic or simple instrumental music, but that's about it. They'll love the transparency and blackground for sure, I know I do. Although vocals and mids are lacking and unengaging. Also, it's quite bass light. People say the LCD-3 is the king of bass. With O2, forget about that completely. Quite bass light. Bottom line, it's quite unengaging for music. Maybe for movies....?

post #7848 of 9585
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Maybe for acoustic or simple instrumental music, but that's about it. They'll love the transparency and blackground for sure, I know I do. Although vocals and mids are lacking and unengaging. Also, it's quite bass light. People say the LCD-3 is the king of bass. With O2, forget about that completely. Quite bass light. Bottom line, it's quite unengaging for music. Maybe for movies....?

Who knows. I found the O2 strident and boring. But that's just me.

 

It's all comparative. If he hasn't heard anything better than A2/Modi, then who's to say

he won't love the LCD-3 on that rig. Ignorance is bliss after-all.

post #7849 of 9585
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Maybe for acoustic or simple instrumental music, but that's about it. They'll love the transparency and blackground for sure, I know I do. Although vocals and mids are lacking and unengaging. Also, it's quite bass light. People say the LCD-3 is the king of bass. With O2, forget about that completely. Quite bass light. Bottom line, it's quite unengaging for music. Maybe for movies....?

Who knows. I found the O2 strident and boring. But that's just me.

 

It's all comparative. If he hasn't heard anything better than A2/Modi, then who's to say

he won't love the LCD-3 on that rig. Ignorance is bliss after-all.

Very true. I stand corrected.

post #7850 of 9585
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

It's all comparative. If he hasn't heard anything better than A2/Modi, then who's to say

he won't love the LCD-3 on that rig. Ignorance is bliss after-all.

 

He already has the HE-400 and Schiit M stack.  I'd sit pretty on that rig since it's already quite good and well matched.  Move up when funds allow for a suitable source and amp.

post #7851 of 9585
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He already has the HE-400 and Schiit M stack.  I'd sit pretty on that rig since it's already quite good and well matched.  Move up when funds allow for a suitable source and amp.

Schiiit, I think getting the LCD-3 now for 'some' enjoyment isn't a bad idea. Then upgraditus.

post #7852 of 9585
I'm willing to increase the budget for an amp/dac, but the question is when will I be I guess...satisfied? Less then $1k then.
post #7853 of 9585
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Originally Posted by DarthUnnamed View Post

I'm willing to increase the budget for an amp/dac, but the question is when will I be I guess...satisfied? Less then $1k then.

 

Just gonna throw out the V200. No clue on how it performs, but thought of mentioning it. 

 

You can get a Mjolnir and use the leftover money for another DAC or maybe save that money, wait it out and save more money and get a better DAC. I am not sure about your current Magni Modi stack but if you must, maybe pick up a used Bifrost that comes without USB. I think that combo can be under $1k.

post #7854 of 9585
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Originally Posted by DarthUnnamed View Post

I'm willing to increase the budget for an amp/dac, but the question is when will I be I guess...satisfied? Less then $1k then.

 

I just hope you've heard one before, otherwise the LCD-2 might be a safer bet.  It's a lot less finicky but still has the house sound.  Hate for the LCD-2 rarely translates to love for the LCD-3 ;)

 

 

And those you can get every day all day used on the for sale forum.  If it's not your cup of tea you are out shipping and not the $300 you lose on LCD-3 resale.

post #7855 of 9585

About as low as I would go would be the Burson Conductor which has a street price of about $1500.

post #7856 of 9585
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

About as low as I would go would be the Burson Conductor which has a street price of about $1500.

 

How would a Mjolnir/Gungnir stack up to the Conductor?

post #7857 of 9585

Never heard the Gung, didn't think the Mjol meshed too well with the LCD-3.  Really aggressive in combination with the W4S DAC-2.

post #7858 of 9585
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

I just hope you've heard one before, otherwise the LCD-2 might be a safer bet.  It's a lot less finicky but still has the house sound.  Hate for the LCD-2 rarely translates to love for the LCD-3 wink.gif




And those you can get every day all day used on the for sale forum.  If it's not your cup of tea you are out shipping and not the $300 you lose on LCD-3 resale.

I'm going to NYC soon so maybe ill try to get a listen there, since there are some resellers there
Edited by DarthUnnamed - 7/20/13 at 5:53pm
post #7859 of 9585

The LCD-3s are my to go headphone and while I enjoyed them tremendously on the Burson Conductor, I felt they could do more. That led to the arrival of the Decware Taboo MK3 amplifier. (I had a bit of a spinoff initially with the HD800s, as I always use them to compare gear for the microscope they are. The Taboo MK3 has fantastic synergy with the HD800s, but that's a story for another thread.)

 

The stock tubes are a real good selection for the price, but obviously you can get (a lot) more in terms of SQ with carefully selected NOS tubes. 

 

Compared to the Conductor the Taboo does a clearer image, expanded soundstage, better instrument separation, enhanced micro-details, better dynamics and is completely grain free. When it's there it produces deeper more extended bass (thinking of Infected Mushrooms right now; there's some mean bass going on on their tracks). It sounds effortless, refined, natural and transparent and the music just flows. It's a dissapearing act. Switching back to the Conductor it sounds flatter, incomplete and very slightly muddier. Don't get me wrong the Conductor is still very clean, but I am trying to illustrate the difference.

 

 The LCD-3s have blossomed and I've lost serious sleep during the last few days. I just can't take myself away to go to bed.  The LCD-3s scale well and I am very pleased with them. I prefer them to the HD800s overall. I agree the Burson Conductor is about where it's worthwhile to start with the LCD-3s and then there's more.

 

Tubes used:

Amperex "pinched waist" 6922

Osram/Marconi/GEC milspec U52 & USAF-596

Russian "Gold grids" milspec 6P15P-ER


Edited by negura - 7/20/13 at 6:21pm
post #7860 of 9585
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

Yes and yes. I do not like it but got used to it

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Originally Posted by MIKELAP View Post

Personnally i own the Conductor and the fainth click you mention is actually more like CLICK CLICK sometimes its not always loud but its always there Burson says to clean the attenuator with wd40 but i figure it did it when it was new so how dirty can it be its only 5 months old wont start screwing around with that but makes you wonder how normal is this other than that its perfect 

I gues I have to look elsewhere, thanks guys.
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