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post #7141 of 9011

I recently had a chance to compare a very close serial number pair of LCD3 to my pair.  (They were purchased about a week a part.)

 

Surprisingly there were quite a few differences I noticed between the two:

 

1)  His pair was louder at the same position on the volume pot than mine, making his more sensitive

2)  His pair was more linear across the frequency spectrum

3)  His pair had slightly more detail but leaned on the bright side, with a slightly wider soundstage

4)  My pair literally has 2.5-3x as much bass presence and impact as his pair (which I throughly enjoy).

5)  My pair are smoother in the highs, but slightly less detailed.

6)  From an aesthetic point of view my pair have the nicest wood cups I've yet seen, almost perfectly symmetrical and a cinnamon brown color.

7)  In a way, they almost sounded like different but similar headphones.

 

I am not much a believer in headphone burn-in, but in case any of you are his pair had about 120 hours on them whereas my pair has about 10.

His earpads were also more broken in and squishier.

 

Any thoughts on why?

post #7142 of 9011

For whatever reason, I like the way my LCD3s sound a lot more than when I first got them in Nov. 2011 (and RMA'd a couple of months later).

I felt there was some glare and some undefined, overdone bass at first. Now I don't have those issues at all, and in fact they are quite awesome and well balanced

and palpable and natural and I love'm.

Mine were the very first batch; I pre-ordered them before they were out.

I'm very happy with them and can't ever see myself parting with them.


Edited by rgs9200m - 2/11/13 at 5:03pm
post #7143 of 9011
My RMA'd ones were a bit dry for a while. I didn't notice much difference in the bass but that doesn't mean it didn't change. They don't change a ton compared to dynamic cans.

I'm sure they'll end up sounding pretty damn similar. 10 hrs is nothing.
post #7144 of 9011

I know this is heresy but I'm tempted to get the velour pads for the lcd3s. I find the stock pads hot. 

post #7145 of 9011
The vegan pads don't get hot at all and are super comfy.
post #7146 of 9011
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Originally Posted by MightyChimp View Post

I know this is heresy but I'm tempted to get the velour pads for the lcd3s. I find the stock pads hot. 

I've been thinking about this for a while.. They make it look a lot less classy though. But if its a difference I'm all for it.

post #7147 of 9011
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I know this is heresy but I'm tempted to get the velour pads for the lcd3s. I find the stock pads hot. 

 

If I come back to the LCD-3, it'll be a vegan.  The heat doesn't bug me but the super squishiness of pads going down to bare wood on my head does.

post #7148 of 9011
It looks better if you have the headband in the same material but yeah the lighter zebrawood doesn't look as nice as the rosewood which is still only so-so. The bamboo is a great match for the vegan pads though. Looks very nice.
Edited by Maxvla - 2/11/13 at 7:21pm
post #7149 of 9011
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

I've been thinking about this for a while.. They make it look a lot less classy though. But if its a difference I'm all for it.

I just find them a little bit too hot and I never had that problem on my senns hd650s. I actually find the weight / comfort perfect - other than the heat

 

Try this out to simulate the effect of the Vegans - cut a square out from a square piece of paper towel and put it around / over your ear. Then put on the headphones.

 

PERFECTLY comfortable now. And I honestly don't notice any significant sound degradation. The bass sounds a little less crisp. The sound stage actually sound bigger. 


I get that the leather pads create a better seal, so may contribute to better sound, but IMO comfort > sound quality at a certain point. 


I adore the sound of the lCD3s and imo there is no better sounding pair of cans, but if I can improve that heat issue I would be ecstatic.


Edited by MightyChimp - 2/11/13 at 7:33pm
post #7150 of 9011
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

If I come back to the LCD-3, it'll be a vegan.  The heat doesn't bug me but the super squishiness of pads going down to bare wood on my head does.

I don't know if you had an old model, but I got mine recently - this isn't a problem at all. I don't notice any pinch at the front. The pads are perfectly comfortable for me other than the heat. 


Edited by MightyChimp - 2/11/13 at 7:28pm
post #7151 of 9011

Thanks for your opinions.  I don't have much time at all to listen because I'm either at my day job, building cables, or taking care of a sick family member.  Therefore the odds of them getting any significant time on them anytime soon is pretty slim to none.  I'm only even typing these posts while taking a smoke break.

 

The oddest issue I have is the volume issue/driver sensitivity issue.  That shouldn't exist at all but it does.  Could it possibly be due to the fact that my pair have much greater output between 50-120Hz than his pair?  I'd say my pair has maybe 10-15% more bass than neutral but its very pleasing and a welcome break from the HD800.  Since I've got these phones, I haven't listened to the HD800 at all and I love them just as much for what they do well, but at times they can get fatiguing whereas my LCD3 never do.

 

Maybe they'll open up more, maybe they won't.  I wouldn't risk losing the superb bass I have now, and unlike others I don't have any driver problems that need repair.

post #7152 of 9011

The cups are lined with acoustically transparent material (or at least they are supposed to be!). So I don't believe this should have any effect on the sound whatsoever. Of course the right driver and left driver are symmetrical/identical so its just luck and variance as to whether the lining is tensioned identically or not and which side it is on.

post #7153 of 9011
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Originally Posted by MightyChimp View Post

I don't know if you had an old model, but I got mine recently - this isn't a problem at all.

 

Mine were brand new from late last summer.  No change in pads since.  If you don't have a monster head or glasses or time in... it's not a problem.  But like all foam, it compressed over time and in my case within 6 months the front pads were gone.

post #7154 of 9011
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

in my case within 6 months the front pads were gone.

 

Funny, no mention of this fact in your ad though? http://www.head-fi.org/t/644590/audeze-lcd-3-w-travel-case

post #7155 of 9011

Unless you have a monster head... it's fine.  When new they had about 2mm of cushion on my head.  If my wife wears them no compression.  Ie working as intended.  Just wish Audeze would find some middle ground between the overly soft LCD-3 and overly stiff LCD-2.


Edited by Solude - 2/12/13 at 5:33am
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