New Audeze LCD3 - Page 20

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Originally Posted by cAsE sEnSiTiVe 

The HD800 only hinted at it, the LCD-2 gives it to me.

That's funny. Opposite here, at least on my setup.

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Originally Posted by purrin 

 

That's funny. Opposite here, at least on my setup.

 

The good thing is that we are both happy with what we have. 

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Originally Posted by n3rdling 

 

Thank you!  jamato and anybody interested, listen to one of your open dynamics/electrostats and then place your hands on the backside of the drivers.  You'll notice a collapsing of the sounstage and a sucking out of the 'air'.  This effect is my one big qualm with the orthos I've heard.

That will happen with any open back HP, there would be cancellation and it also affects the free movement of the diaphragm from air reflection. If you place a cardboard even an inch or two away from the back you will start hearing some of it. I believe the material and the holes on the back cover has some influence on the SQ as well.

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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer 

Listening to the LCD3 right now using my own gear and music. It is an amazing hLeadphone, without a doubt one of the best on the market. It has just about everything you could want, and little to nothing that you wouldn't. The comfort and sound are both significantly improved from the LCD2.
The LCD3 is a great and welcome addition to the realm of headphones. So everyone who hasn't heard them, quit your whining.

I may start whining because I haven't heard them. :^) Great to read though. Looks like things get better and better though I wish the prices where lower but that is the cost of admission. Enjoy the meet!

From an engineering and execution standpoint the HD800 is amazing.  The graphs by both Purrin and Tyll are smooth compared to other headphones.  That doesn't happen by happenstance.  Sennheiser did some good stuff.

It will be neat when Purrin can get some measurements of a few LCD-2 rev2 and eventually an  LCD-3.  Has Audeze improved things?  Smoother?  More consistent?

One thing the LCD-2 does very very well for a headphone is pipe organ.    I love it for that.  Is there any headphone that does pipe organ better?  That big ortho driver has something going even if that something doesn't allow for a wow wide soundstage.

I read some time ago that one Head-Fier really liked the GS1000 for organ music.

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Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich 

From an engineering and execution standpoint the HD800 is amazing.  The graphs by both Purrin and Tyll are smooth compared to other headphones.  That doesn't happen by happenstance.  Sennheiser did some good stuff.

 

It will be neat when Purrin can get some measurements of a few LCD-2 rev2 and eventually an  LCD-3.  Has Audeze improved things?  Smoother?  More consistent?

 

One thing the LCD-2 does very very well for a headphone is pipe organ.    I love it for that.  Is there any headphone that does pipe organ better?  That big ortho driver has something going even if that something doesn't allow for a wow wide soundstage.

LOL. I may just buy an LCD3. Jude's initial impressions were favorable of it; and I would trust his more than others because he feels the same way I do about the HD800 (that properly set up, they beat everything out there so far.) And also for some mystery reason, we tend to like the same stuff (from what I can gather from his limited number of impressions over time.)

Now how do I preorder?

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Originally Posted by Marximus 

I read some time ago that one Head-Fier really liked the GS1000 for organ music.

Maybe for Hammond B3 organ music.    A Grado of any flavor would never do for pipe organ.  Grados are amazingly wonderful though for the Hammond B3.

Does anyone know what the differences are between the new "LOTUS diaphragm" in the LCD-3 vs. the LCD-2?

I've also read about pleated planar diaphragm that would have even longer excursion.

I remember the first time I auditioned the HD800s, I was awestruck immediately by the smoothness and effortless nature of its midrange, I then realized how good the soundstage was.  Then the bombshell after a few songs, absolute dread from the treble.  Man I was such a huge fan of Sennheiser, because I loved my HD650s, at that moment oh how betrayed I felt.

Sure I feel the HD800 is better than the LCD2 in soundstaging.  But for me tonality is number 1, followed then by instrument definition for that the LCD2s edge out the HD800s.  Soundstage isn't in my list of priorities for absolute headphone perfection, its a special effect and a nice bonus.  I always repeat this, but given the correct recording, the LCD2s don't actually yield any ground to the HD800 in overall out of head sensation.  Having said that, I pretty much put the HD800 on equal footing with the LCD2 in terms of transparency.  I find HD650/HD800 and LCD2 to be correct in the mids.

Sometimes the mids are very close, but that is a reflection of the distance between the microphone and the vocalist / instrument, i.e. whats on the recording.  The HD800 puts distance by emphasising ambient frequencies.

I can't really comprehend how the LCD3s will be better.  The only thing I think that could be better on my headphones is for the slope angle of the shelf to be less severe, and to reduce a bit of the cymbal frequencies.  Its all about the mids, perfect bass is a bonus.

Maybe Audeze will offer reduced LCD-3 pricing for recent purchasers of the LCD-2.2's?  Dreamer? 

Dream on.

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Originally Posted by purrin 

 

LOL. I may just buy an LCD3. Jude's initial impressions were favorable of it; and I would trust his more than others because he feels the same way I do about the HD800 (that properly set up, they beat everything out there so far.) And also for some mystery reason, we tend to like the same stuff (from what I can gather from his limited number of impressions over time.)

 

Now how do I preorder?

 

That's taking one for the team.  

I'm just gonna hang tight.  I know I'll get to audition an LCD-3 at a local meet sometime.  Having ALO local and a bunch of orthoheads local pretty much guarantees that an LCD3 will show up at a local meet, if not Alex from Audeze himself.  I'm not going to be able to pull out the wallet though for an LCD3.  Beyond my means (note, I'm not complaining about the price, just stating reality for my audio budgeting).