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post #1291 of 9661

Got'em. biggrin.gif

 

More to follow....

 

Right off the bat (zero burn-in) with a quick A-B over my LCD-2 Rev. 2s, improved soundstaging, tighter bass and cymbals seem alive (truer to real life than either the Rev. 1 or Rev. 2 LCD-2). So far....more evolutionary than revolutionary like the LCD-2s were (but definitely noticeable and enjoyable).

 

About the same weight, but just slightly more comfortable than the previous versions due to the softer ear pads. Not way more comfortable....slightly I would say (that's with 15 minutes on my head).

 

 

post #1292 of 9661

^^ Follow up on the treble...

 

Cymbals on Red Barchetta (Moving Pictures...remastered Deluxe Edition) sound more real than ever. The shimmer details are more apparent than on the R2 LCD-2s (which in turn were better than the R1s from my notes).

 

Very nicely done treble...added details WITHOUT making the headphones bright in any way....these still sound very much like Audeze headphones.

 

I don't want to comment too much more until I've got about 50 hours on them, but so far very promising.

post #1293 of 9661

 

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Originally Posted by n3rdling View Post

john which rev of the lcd2 is that in your graph?


 

Check that post again, I’ve updated it to include both versions.

post #1294 of 9661
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Originally Posted by johnwmclean View Post

Check that post again, I’ve updated it to include both versions.


Thanks for posting those charts, johnwmclean. While FR charts obviously don't tell the whole story, they do seem to support googleli's contention that "the extra details of LCD3 is a natural result of the improvement in transparency and transient response, rather than an emphasis in any part of the frequency range."

 

Now, where's my shipping confirmation? redface.gif

 

post #1295 of 9661

Posting measurements now. http://www.head-fi.org/t/580283/lcd3-measurements


Edited by purrin - 11/14/11 at 1:36pm
post #1296 of 9661
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

^^ Follow up on the treble...

 

Cymbals on Red Barchetta (Moving Pictures...remastered Deluxe Edition) sound more real than ever. The shimmer details are more apparent than on the R2 LCD-2s (which in turn were better than the R1s from my notes).

 

Very nicely done treble...added details WITHOUT making the headphones bright in any way....these still sound very much like Audeze headphones.

 

I don't want to comment too much more until I've got about 50 hours on them, but so far very promising.


Can you comment on the dynamics. I generally found the planar to lack dynamics and sound flat. Can you compare them to say the T1 and comment on who wins in this dept.

 

post #1297 of 9661
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Originally Posted by Jian View Post

IMO, in a healthy headphone system, the headphone should be the cheapest component, and the source the most expensive one. 



I have to disagree with this.. Try a $10K amp with $50 headphones.

post #1298 of 9661
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

So far....more evolutionary than revolutionary like the LCD-2s were (but definitely noticeable and enjoyable).

 


Careful, Peter.

Some of us eager folks will read into that comment:  "LCD-2 Rev.3".  tongue.gif
 

 

post #1299 of 9661

 

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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

I have to disagree with this.. Try a $10K amp with $50 headphones.


That's an extreme, obviously. There is some science involved, but I would have to say that every system is different unless they are all using the exact same components and source material.

 

IMO/E there are no rules, but I would have to go with the transducer-first crowd for headphone systems. Everything is important, but it's how they work together that really matters.

 

My HD800/LCD-2 both do great out of a $2k balanced tube headamp, while my HE-6 and K1000 perform well with a $200 balanced SS speaker amp with a SE source and tubed input stage. I get more extended resolution with the HE-6 than the K1000 on that latter system and am wondering if my source needs improving, but I won't know yet until I try it. As both of my amps are balanced, I would like to try either a balanced Havana or the Schiit statement DAC when it comes out.

 

I'm sure the Esoteric sounds great but I will never spend $20k on any individual component, to me that amount of money will more than purchase a fantastic system in its entirety. But kudos to those who can afford to prioritize a system like that, as this drives the technology that we can all benefit from eventually.


Edited by grokit - 11/15/11 at 12:51pm
post #1300 of 9661

In my opinion all parts of the system are very important. 

 

But from my experience if I had to rank it would be as follows: 

 

(1) Headphones >(2) Source > (3) Amp > (4) Transport > (5) cables

 

 

My LCD-3 should be arriving soon by the way :)


Edited by TigzStudio - 11/14/11 at 1:15pm
post #1301 of 9661
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Originally Posted by TigzStudio View Post

In my opinion all parts of the system are very important. 

 

But from my experience this is how I rank importance. 

 

Headphones >Source >Amp >Transport > cables


I would agree with that and I also would agree if you replaced Headphones with speakers (since that's what they effectively are).

 

 

post #1302 of 9661

I've always believed in balance - all parts of the system being in about the same price range, very roughly, for headphone systems.  For speaker systems I think the speakers have to cost more than any other single component for the equation to work well.  So generally I am a "transducer first" person, but I certainly think amplification and source matter a lot too.  I also think really good analog costs more than really good digital.

 

Back on topic, it's very nice to see some LCD-3 impression rolling in.  Keep 'em coming, folks!


Edited by Skylab - 11/14/11 at 1:20pm
post #1303 of 9661

Hasn't anyone weighed their LCD2 and LCD3s? The LCD3 seems much lighter than what I remember of the LCD2, which felt like wearing a helmet.

post #1304 of 9661
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Originally Posted by gurus View Post


Can you comment on the dynamics. I generally found the planar to lack dynamics and sound flat. Can you compare them to say the T1 and comment on who wins in this dept.

 


Excellent question.  This is my experience as well, although I cannot comment on the LCD3.  The T1 has good micro-dynamics.  Anyone have thoughts on the LCD3, particularly in comparison?

post #1305 of 9661

Based on Purrin's data, indeed the cymbals shimmer should be more easily heard on the lcd3. The question is if it really is natural sounding, I didn't have enough time to judge when I sampled the lcd3. Overall, the test data is pretty impressive though!

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

^^ Follow up on the treble...

 

Cymbals on Red Barchetta (Moving Pictures...remastered Deluxe Edition) sound more real than ever. The shimmer details are more apparent than on the R2 LCD-2s (which in turn were better than the R1s from my notes).

 

Very nicely done treble...added details WITHOUT making the headphones bright in any way....these still sound very much like Audeze headphones.

 

I don't want to comment too much more until I've got about 50 hours on them, but so far very promising.


 

 

 

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