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post #11236 of 11248
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Originally Posted by musical-kage View Post

My stepping stones have been Sennheiser PX100s, PX100 iis, V-Moda M100s (blew away the Senns), and tried my dads Senn 598s for a few hours, and now looking for a be all and end all to replace them.

LCDs won't replace them for portable use of course unless I opted for the X's or Xc's.
But the whole point of Planar is to offer a more natural open sound so having a closed set seems counterproductive.

I find my M-100s to sound wide and they are closed though... Detail isn't lacking either so I'm expecting probably more than I should be.

Bass is apparently phenominal.

Started using Tidal lossless too yesterday. I felt there was a difference to Spotifys 320kbps stream

In retrospect I would have gotten the X- one starts to really appreciate that aluminium housing after so many instances of wood cracking on the cups...

The X is more neutral as well, and if I had known back then that I prefer a brighter sound signature than the 3 I would have gone with the X. I only found out that I prefer such a sound after I got a HD800. You really need to try many other cans that are at the same price or lower, especially HD800. Coming from some mid-fi cans like HD650 I didn't have enough experience with other contenders and so when I heard the X&3 I was not so much blown away (but the difference was large enough to be perceivable). 

Right now I like that the 3 complements my HD800's bright sound signature but I don't use the 3 a lot because of the lack of high-end frequencies. I now think I should have gotten them used somewhere, new is too much. Though I must say it does bass and mids well....but I have since moved onto SR009s.

post #11237 of 11248
X sounds brighter than the 3?
Do you lose some details in the X though?
I will indeed have to try them, as I'm wondering if they will offer the detail I'd expect for the price.
You'd expect them to
Edited by musical-kage - 11/1/16 at 1:20pm
post #11238 of 11248
The x is a clear step below in detail retrieval. The x is similar to the 2 but i believe people choose it over the 2 because of its more neutral presentation and slightly tighter bass. I however find the x to be a weird combination of thickness and neutral and am not quite sure where it really shines music wise. Atleast with the 2 and the 3 the thickness directly correlates with the overall lushness. I did like the x with a certain amp however and considered getting it but i simply can't stand the fazors weight or them touching my ears and with the 3 I didn't need any certain amp to get it to sing.
post #11239 of 11248
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Originally Posted by musical-kage View Post

X sounds brighter than the 3?
Do you lose some details in the X though?
I will indeed have to try them, as I'm wondering if they will offer the detail I'd expect for the price.
You'd expect them to

I would say more specifically it has better balance than 3 that makes it perceived as brighter. 

And also I haven't heard a X in ages so I don't know if I will still think this way if I do hear a X side by side to a 3 with my current gear, but back then (around early '14) I noticed different parts in a recording that I didn't notice with the 3 while in the 3 certain details were more emphasized. I think it's a matter of balance that makes certain 'details' apparent and an emphasis on the said 'detail', not so much "there's more detail" or "there's detail loss" unless the said effects originate from the ability of the hardware itself. I don't know which is more technically superior in detail retrieval as a piece of hardware.

And no, price doesn't correlate with performance...just look at what happens with the SR007s and SR009s. Most experienced Stax/estat users have a 009 but it doesn't mean they use it all the time. Some prefer the 007 over the 009 and vice versa depending on one's preferences. Even amplifiers, get people who can actually open it up and assess whether the circuit design and build quality is worth the price tag. More often than not the price doesn't correlate with the two. Whether it sounds good to your ears regardless is another question...

post #11240 of 11248
Side by side You can tell immediately the diaphragm of the 3 is superior to the x. The extra detail is not due to FR. I understand people listen differently but the driver in the x is simply constrained compared to the 3. I'm a big fan of being able to tell what's going on with a headphone for speakers driver before I even see it. The x is not only not as detailed but if it magically had more detail it would just simply be there instead of being in full control and fully integrated into the dynamics of the sound too like the 3 does. The details in the 3 flow like water. While proof reading this I realized that I'm comparing to my prefazor and not the fazor most are accompanied to.
post #11241 of 11248
Hi,

I am selling my Fazor LCD3. I got the headphones directly from AUDEZE in May last year. The headphones are in absolute mint condition. They are under warranty. They have all the original (unused accessories). I always used the headphones with an after market cable. They come in the rugged travel case.

Asking price $1,390 US dollars.

Ships to US only.

If you are interested please PM me. I can share pictures and answer any questions you have.
Edited by qrtas - 11/2/16 at 8:28am
post #11242 of 11248
I like the X very much
And I don't need one amp!
With just my Hugo it's excellent!
But lc3f is way superior
In the detail midrange etc
Had LCD X still have the 3. Sometimes I think yo sell it for the he1000 but I found one ss amp that really make them sing crunchy and fast
From the speaker taps of my unison s6 also sound very close to he1000
I like the LCD x very much
post #11243 of 11248
Can I switch back to the leather earpads after trying the vegan? Will I need to get another set of adhesive rings? So much conflicting info on the sound and comfort, better to try for myself.
post #11244 of 11248
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Originally Posted by headfirocks View Post

Can I switch back to the leather earpads after trying the vegan? Will I need to get another set of adhesive rings? So much conflicting info on the sound and comfort, better to try for myself.

I emailed audeze for that and they sent me some rings for free

post #11245 of 11248

Okay here we go, i have side by side my new Lcd-3 and my hd650, first impression, their sound signature are very very (very) similar, the Lcd-3 sound like an upgraded 650 in a sense of it has more resolution, it's a cliché to say that but, a thin veil to the sound is lifted, though i've never felt that the 650 was veiled at all.

 

With that said, the gap is closer than expected between the two. Really, the 650 is a glorious pair of headphones, old, cheap and still capable of fighting with much much higher pricing cans.

post #11246 of 11248

Getting my LCD-3F 2016 coming soon, it's been 3 years away from Audeze house sound since I last sold my pre-fazor LCD2.  Since then I went to HD800, then HD800S, then HE1000, now owning Utopia and Elear.  Wonder where LCD-3F 2016 fit between Utopia and Elear.

 

From just a quick read look like 2016 version has slight elevated treble, so would Norne Draug v2 cable be fitting for them?  I have a set of Norne cable terminated for HE1000 and wonder if I should reterminate it for LCD-3 or just sell it.

post #11247 of 11248
That cable improve the headstage a little and it s very good with lcd3
Maybe something just asked you : How do you like the utopia in comparison to the he1000?
post #11248 of 11248

I think HE1000 v1 has advantage over Utopia is the bass quantity (Utopia got tighter bass, HEK got more), and  sound stage. I found Utopia midrange to be really sweet and treble to be smooth, HEK midrange sounded dry in comparison.  I found the HEK treble to be harsh at times, that's why I got Draug cable in hope of taming that a bit, but ended up still not getting used to it enough to keep it.  I haven't got a chance to try HEK v2, maybe Hifiman address the midrange and treble issue there.  Comfort wise I think HEK is better than Utopia, the nice large pads really help.

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