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Now this question might seem a little ridiculous but i want to know if its possible to imitate the grado sound with an EQ with bass oriented headphones such as the tma1 and the the turbine coppers.  im using Equ for the iphone as my equalizer and im just wondering how the graph should look like?  If i copy the shape of the frequency response of grado headphones will i get a similar sound?

post #2 of 12

Sincerely, with the dull and boring sounding TMA-1 you won't be able to match the Grado sound. I don't know if you could with the Turbine coppers.

post #3 of 12
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ya ive been fiddling around with the eq and the tma1 sounds veiled no matter what i do to the higher frequencies.  the coppers seem to be more lively.  The wait for my 325is is killing me but ill just have to wait a couple more days

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Originally Posted by aljonn30 View Post

ya ive been fiddling around with the eq and the tma1 sounds veiled no matter what i do to the higher frequencies.  the coppers seem to be more lively.  The wait for my 325is is killing me but ill just have to wait a couple more days



Try lowering the lower frequencies too.

post #5 of 12
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i did that as well and all it did was diminish the depth of the songs.  the coppers seem to fare better when playing around with the EQ thoughj

post #6 of 12

A lot of the Grado sound comes from excessive ringing, too. You won't be able to recreate that with an EQ. Or the distortion, which is usually very low in the upper mid-range but high elsewhere.

post #7 of 12
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after comparing the EQed coppers to the grado, i actually found the coppers to be slightly brighter, but the sound of the grados were more natural and detailed

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A lot of the Grado sound comes from excessive ringing, too. You won't be able to recreate that with an EQ. Or the distortion, which is usually very low in the upper mid-range but high elsewhere.


 

Yes. You can get ringing by boosting frequencies on linear phase EQs, but generally better LP EQs barely ring and lowering frequencies instead of boosting can rid of ringing altogether. So I suppose getting a decent LP EQ and give it a try, but also learn to use EQ properly on the way (FYI, oversampling LP EQs sound the most natural to me). You can definitely get close with a good headphone. With really good headphones and a top-notch EQ, it might even sound better than a Grado. (Well, at least in terms of frequency extension, distortion, and congestion.)


Edited by wind016 - 10/14/11 at 10:50am
post #9 of 12

Oh, I just realized you're using EQu. Frankly, it's not the best portable EQ. Any of the Korean players, such as Cowon or Iriver, have a better sound shaping options. If the Coppers are anything like the Golds, you need to kill the bass and boost the treble and upper mids by... alot.

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Maybe try the Equalizer app instead of EQu......you can be much more precise with your adjustments. I gave up on EQu months ago.....Equalizer is better IMO.

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by wind016 View Post

Yes. You can get ringing by boosting frequencies on linear phase EQs, but generally better LP EQs barely ring and lowering frequencies instead of boosting can rid of ringing altogether. So I suppose getting a decent LP EQ and give it a try, but also learn to use EQ properly on the way (FYI, oversampling LP EQs sound the most natural to me). You can definitely get close with a good headphone. With really good headphones and a top-notch EQ, it might even sound better than a Grado. (Well, at least in terms of frequency extension, distortion, and congestion.)

 

You won't be able to replicate the Grado ringing. There's no sort of "Ringing EQ" that allows you to tailor the ringing.

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You won't be able to replicate the Grado ringing. There's no sort of "Ringing EQ" that allows you to tailor the ringing.



Not to mention if it's linear phase, it has pre-ringing.  I am comfortable stating that Grados, on their own, do not exhibit pre-ringing.

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