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post #61 of 110

A short question here. Does the iPod Touch 4G use a Wolfson? If yes, which one?

 

Thanks.

post #62 of 110
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Originally Posted by TheDreamthinker View Post

A short question here. Does the iPod Touch 4G use a Wolfson? If yes, which one?

 

Thanks.



It does not use a Wolfson.....it uses a Cirrus Logic chip. But you shouldn't exclude it from consideration based upon that. It is a very good sounding DAP even through the headphone-out, and unlike say, the Cowon line-up, it gives you line-out capability as well.

post #63 of 110
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

It does not use a Wolfson.....it uses a Cirrus Logic chip. But you shouldn't exclude it from consideration based upon that. It is a very good sounding DAP even through the headphone-out, and unlike say, the Cowon line-up, it gives you line-out capability as well.


.....which i find very sad. It suppose it isn't so much of a trouble integrating a line-out, for amps to use.

Of course i can't be sure about that ( as i am not proficient in that area of expertise).

 

post #64 of 110
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Originally Posted by ZetsuBozu0012 View Post


My typing with my Galaxy S is even worse, so apology accepted :D

Anyway, I can see your dilemma. I'm personally going to save up for the Wowee One after buying a pair of Shure 215s. Shame that you won't be able to find a place to store it when not in use; for a portable speaker, it sounds pretty good (managed to audition one a few weeks back).

 

In terms of sheer volume, though, the iPhone 4S is actually quite good, though nowhere near the HTC... Desire, I think; either that or the Nexus One. If you're looking for pure volume, there are a few good picks from the Android crowd, though the SQ when you plug in a pair of headphones is subpar, especially with HTC (no offense to fans of the brand).

 

Good luck with your purchase. From what I recall, the latest iPhone has issues with battery life, echoing the AOS bug on my SGS. I think Apple's released an update correcting the issue, though, so you may have nothing to worry about.

 

 

P.S.

Out of curiosity, is it true that the 4S uses the same DAC as the i9000? The Wolfson is one of the main reasons I'm sticking with this phone :P


It wouldn't surprise me, I heard they are using a lot of Samsung chips in their new phone.

I was able this neat little tid bit about the speaker.

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Originally Posted by AVU View Post

Just received my iPhone 4s and couldn't be happier.  This thing is AMAZING.  

 

My wife upgraded from the 3gs, I upgraded from the 4.  There's a good bit of difference between the 4 and the 4s. I'm not going to waste time going over all the features, since you can pretty much get that from anywhere, but what I will say is that I was really surprised by how good the SPEAKER sounds!  I actually sorta turned it on by accident, just screwing around with SIRI, asking it to play a certain song.  It did, and it started coming out the speakers, and I was like, oh, that's neat.  But then I started to listen, and I was like, damn, that's a seriously high level of detail retrieval and nuance for a - what, 3mm speaker?!  I sat it on the shelf and turned it up to 80% and was really, really surprised that it was listenable. I mean, no one's going to mistake it for the JH-13, but for the electronica tune I had on, it was actually perfectly acceptable. 

 

post #65 of 110

Great, even more reason for me to want to shell out serious coin for a new phone :P

Ugh, so now I'm starting to really consider either the iPhone 4S (camera and SQ... and Siri) or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (ICS, camera, screen). The thing I really HATE about technology nowadays: Yesteryear's high-end is today's mid-range. I really think that I should stop trawling sites like this and GSMArena blink.gif

Anyway, sounds great! Good luck with your new iPhone, Pwn3r4Life.

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 Do yourself a big fat favor and throw the Nexxus out the window. The screen and camera have nothing in the iPhone 4s screen and camera. The only phones that can run with the iPhone are the Samsung Galaxy S II and I do believe the droid razr is going to bring some competition when it is released on 11 11 11. Retina display is highly under rated and the Samsung Galaxy S ii screen Doesn't look like a screen. It reminds me of a kindle. Easy to see even in bright sunlight. IMO galaxy s ii is too vivid and looks fake but it's up to you. You really hit the bullseye with yesTerdays high end is today's mid range

. The Nexxus is behind the curve.

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Great, even more reason for me to want to shell out serious coin for a new phone :P

Ugh, so now I'm starting to really consider either the iPhone 4S (camera and SQ... and Siri) or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (ICS, camera, screen). The thing I really HATE about technology nowadays: Yesteryear's high-end is today's mid-range. I really think that I should stop trawling sites like this and GSMArena blink.gif

Anyway, sounds great! Good luck with your new iPhone, Pwn3r4Life.



 

 

post #67 of 110
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 Do yourself a big fat favor and throw the Nexxus out the window. The screen and camera have nothing in the iPhone 4s screen and camera. The only phones that can run with the iPhone are the Samsung Galaxy S II and I do believe the droid razr is going to bring some competition when it is released on 11 11 11. Retina display is highly under rated and the Samsung Galaxy S ii screen Doesn't look like a screen. It reminds me of a kindle. Easy to see even in bright sunlight. IMO galaxy s ii is too vivid and looks fake but it's up to you. You really hit the bullseye with yesTerdays high end is today's mid range

 



Okay, how about we just drop that subject? I've been in enough Android v. iOS discussions to know that they're a really pain in the rear. And pointless. Besides, that would drag this thread off-topic.

... As much as I WOULD like to rebut that statement of yours :3

Anyway, how does the 4S' audio output with the 3.5mm (really clean, in my opinion) stack up against a Voodoo Sound-enabled SGS? Just wondering.

 

 

P.S. (Sorry, I really couldn't help myself)

 

Galaxy Nexus:

1.2GHz TI OMAP processor with PowerVR SGX540 GPU (not the latest nor the greatest GPU, but more than adequate)

1280x720 4.65" Super AMOLED screen (233 ppi)

Camera is a 5MP unit with really good quality stills and zero shutter lag (supposedly the fastest in capturing photos) and can record 1080p video.

ICS has a really nice UI.

 

... I apologize for my childishness in adding that postscript, so feel free to reply in any way you think appropriate. I'll let you have the last say.


Edited by ZetsuBozu0012 - 11/7/11 at 12:25am
post #68 of 110
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I finally got my iPhone 4s and haven't been on head fi too much because I can't put it down. The audio out the headphone jack is sooooooo amazing. I demo-ed a friend of mines Sony MDR-v600 (I think) on my 4s with 320 kbps AAC and it sounded so much more crisp than on his HTC EVO with his Lossless files. The difference wasn't just apparent but mind-boggling. My 4s also got the cans a significant amount louder.

The internal speakers on the 4s are quite impressive. I tend to forget that they are coming from my phone as they sound like an iHome. Not quite as good as my Logitech protables but very respectable especially when using your hand or an object to "cup" the sound out.

post #69 of 110
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Originally Posted by Pwn3r4Life View Post

I finally got my iPhone 4s and haven't been on head fi too much because I can't put it down. The audio out the headphone jack is sooooooo amazing. I demo-ed a friend of mines Sony MDR-v600 (I think) on my 4s with 320 kbps AAC and it sounded so much more crisp than on his HTC EVO with his Lossless files. The difference wasn't just apparent but mind-boggling. My 4s also got the cans a significant amount louder.

The internal speakers on the 4s are quite impressive. I tend to forget that they are coming from my phone as they sound like an iHome. Not quite as good as my Logitech protables but very respectable especially when using your hand or an object to "cup" the sound out.



Congrats. You're the second person I know to have bought an iPhone 4s (the first one being my mom rolleyes.gif).

 

I agree. I don't often listen to music through a phone's speakers, but the output on it was really rather surprising. The SQ out of the 3.5mm is also beyond expectations. I'd put it around the same level as the Galaxy S or an iPod (4th Gen). Yeah, this kinda reinforces my suspicions that the 4s uses a Wolfson.

 

Ugh, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I'll be trading in for the new iPhone. Next year XD

post #70 of 110

i dont care much,i had a good listening time with an ordinary mp3 from sony,totally overkilling any ipod.

but considering they are making a lot,a lot of music devices,they could really change some comps.

post #71 of 110
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Originally Posted by ZetsuBozu0012 View Post



Congrats. You're the second person I know to have bought an iPhone 4s (the first one being my mom rolleyes.gif).

 

I agree. I don't often listen to music through a phone's speakers, but the output on it was really rather surprising. The SQ out of the 3.5mm is also beyond expectations. I'd put it around the same level as the Galaxy S or an iPod (4th Gen). Yeah, this kinda reinforces my suspicions that the 4s uses a Wolfson.

 

Ugh, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I'll be trading in for the new iPhone. Next year XD


I take it you are an Android person?
I try not to classify myself by brands, I am the only person I know who prefers Windows and iOS. The SQ baffles me, sound signature is a lot like the iBuds (the newer kind), but with more volume. I personally don't want my phone to shake and break with bass (pun intended).

 


 

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Originally Posted by antberg View Post

i dont care much,i had a good listening time with an ordinary mp3 from sony,totally overkilling any ipod.

but considering they are making a lot,a lot of music devices,they could really change some comps.


iPod's have come a long way, from being the hip listening device, to the one that has the most features with great SQ. What do you mean by change comps?

 

 

post #72 of 110


 

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Pwn3r4Life


iPod's have come a long way, from being the hip listening device, to the one that has the most features with great SQ. What do you mean by change comps?

 

 



i agree they come from a long way,but dont forget the first ipod`s idea is the portability of music,i had the opportunity to ear a lot from friend comparing with some sony i had in the past and the SQ difference is noticeably (anyway im going to buy a ipod nano,my first apple ever.),even the good

 

talking about the wolfson chip..

 

post #73 of 110
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Originally Posted by Pwn3r4Life View Post


I take it you are an Android person?
I try not to classify myself by brands, I am the only person I know who prefers Windows and iOS. The SQ baffles me, sound signature is a lot like the iBuds (the newer kind), but with more volume. I personally don't want my phone to shake and break with bass (pun intended).

 


 


iPod's have come a long way, from being the hip listening device, to the one that has the most features with great SQ. What do you mean by change comps?

 

 



Well, I wouldn't say that I were a fanatic about Android; I actually wanna try out MeeGo on the N9, but I'm strapped for cash right now, and it's not like I actively dislike iOS. The only reason I picked the Galaxy S over the iPhone 4 when I was shopping for my first smartphone last year was because it was a bit cheaper, and had expandable storage. It also had Bluetooth file transfer, USB Mass Storage mode, a bigger screen, and support for FLACs and .mkv. 

 

Basically, I'm okay with any OS, as long as it's got no major problems, and has a decent selection of applications. Android Market is catching up to the App Store in terms of quantity, but in terms of the quality of the games, Cupertino kicks Mountain View's podex.

 

Honestly, if it weren't for my love of non-iOS-supported codecs (and hate of having to convert music), I'd switch to an iPhone. Not to offend Android fans.

 

To sum it up: iOS for simplicity and apps (not to mention liquid smoothness of the UI navigation), and Android for looks, personalization, and the fact that it's fun to mess around with. Oh, but going back to the 4s... the one thing that really got me was the shutter speed of the camera. 

post #74 of 110

My understanding is the there are a least three apps that support Flac if that is your main issue.  I have never tried them, though.

post #75 of 110
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The FLAC apps are buggy and have poor outdated UI.

The shutter speed is very fast. I captured some pictures of fast moving football players with no blur.

It also has HDR mode with a slow shutter speed but apparently higher quality. I did not notice any difference.

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