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post #91 of 432
10/14/11 at 1:46pm
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Thanks for the reply. I know what that feels, I paid $414 for a pair HD 650s last year and now they sell on Amazon for $336. 

 


Hey look, $650 for Canadians... http://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-650-Lightweight-Audiophile/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318625096&sr=8-1

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post #92 of 432
10/14/11 at 2:04pm
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Hey look, $650 for Canadians... http://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-650-Lightweight-Audiophile/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318625096&sr=8-1

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Dang!

 

That's pretty terrible considering someone from the US can just buy that and ship it to Canada for $375-400...

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post #93 of 432
10/14/11 at 3:27pm
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Dang!

 

That's pretty terrible considering someone from the US can just buy that and ship it to Canada for $375-400...



Oddly enough, that has yet to happen to me...

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post #94 of 432
10/14/11 at 8:09pm
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Oddly enough, that has yet to happen to me...



I'm confused, what hasn't happened?

 

And for the record, I'd be willing to buy headphones and ship it over to Canada if anyone was desperate enough...

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post #95 of 432
10/14/11 at 10:21pm
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I'm confused, what hasn't happened?

 

And for the record, I'd be willing to buy headphones and ship it over to Canada if anyone was desperate enough...



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post #96 of 432
10/14/11 at 11:11pm
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Partial update. Added stuff to the table, relative rankings and notes, still have to write about general sound and comparisons.

 

Also pictures added.

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post #97 of 432
10/15/11 at 1:01am
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Congrats on getting the TMA-1 I'm dying to hear your impressions on what they sound like..


They are the darkest headphone I have ever heard. The mids are muffled, and the highend is nearly non existent. They were very comfortable and the instrument separation is fantastic.

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post #98 of 432
10/15/11 at 1:03am

Love this photo:
 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis 
 

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Could you explain this part further please?

 

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Bass

HD25-1: impactful with just enough rumble to give satisfaction, very strong midbass

HD25-13: just a little bit deeper and cleaner

T50p: it's there; nothing really of note

DT1350: very clean, but no body to it, feels overdamped actually

HDJ-2000: strong presence, pleasing thump, mild rumble, less impact and definition than HD25

HDJ-2000mod: even stronger, much more rumble

M80: strong, clear, decent impact (moreso in upper bass)

TMA-1: very strong, no impact or rumble, sort of a one-note doof for everything but it does it well

 

HDJ-2000mod > HD25-13 > M80 = HD25-1 > HDJ-2000 > DT1350 > TMA-1 > T50p

 

 

specifically the part where "DT1350 > TMA-1" blink.gif never tried the TMA1 but isnt bass suppose to be its forte?

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post #99 of 432
10/15/11 at 1:54am
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It is... but quite frankly bass is a strong suit from all the contenders, and they simply do it better. My rankings there are purely subjective and result from a combination of volume, clarity, and whimsy. I'll probably switch it to DT1350 >= TMA-1 now that I reflect on it though. While the DT1350 is much much cleaner, the sheer DOOF of the TMA-1 ought to pull it up a few points. 

 

Also for anyone interested, a bit of putty and a piece of felt in the M80 will decrease bass, a bit of mids and soundstage, but tightens up the treble clarity and improves sub bass response. 

 

And Raguvian, I hope you don't mind but I did a couple (totally reversibly) mods to your TMA-1. A thin ring of closed cell foam beneath the pad assembly to improve isolation a smidge and give a bit more kick to the bass, and a wad of open cell foam beneath the back half of each pad to angle the cups towards the ears and give a more natural fit and sound. 

 

And if anyone happens to have both a TMA-1 and a Beyer DT 7/8/9, could you check to see if the Beyer headband fits the TMA-1?


Edited by Armaegis - 10/15/11 at 2:02am
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post #100 of 432
10/15/11 at 2:25am
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Hey look, $650 for Canadians... http://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-650-Lightweight-Audiophile/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318625096&sr=8-1

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A store called Creative Audio sells the HD650 for 655 plus tax and a Grado SR60i sells for 125 plus tax. Canadian prices are ridiculous.

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post #101 of 432
10/15/11 at 8:37am
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It is... but quite frankly bass is a strong suit from all the contenders, and they simply do it better. My rankings there are purely subjective and result from a combination of volume, clarity, and whimsy. I'll probably switch it to DT1350 >= TMA-1 now that I reflect on it though. While the DT1350 is much much cleaner, the sheer DOOF of the TMA-1 ought to pull it up a few points. 

 

Also for anyone interested, a bit of putty and a piece of felt in the M80 will decrease bass, a bit of mids and soundstage, but tightens up the treble clarity and improves sub bass response. 

 

And Raguvian, I hope you don't mind but I did a couple (totally reversibly) mods to your TMA-1. A thin ring of closed cell foam beneath the pad assembly to improve isolation a smidge and give a bit more kick to the bass, and a wad of open cell foam beneath the back half of each pad to angle the cups towards the ears and give a more natural fit and sound. 

 

And if anyone happens to have both a TMA-1 and a Beyer DT 7/8/9, could you check to see if the Beyer headband fits the TMA-1?



That's cool, I'd like to try it out that way anyways.

 

Also, as for the DT 770/880/990 headband:

 


 

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If anyone's interested, the Beyerdynamic DT770/880/990 headband fits the TMA-1 just fine: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=521853&postcount=172

 



http://www.head-fi.org/t/506129/aiaiai-tma-1/900#post_7748301

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post #102 of 432
10/15/11 at 10:00am

I want to make sure I'm hearing things right. Am I the only one who feels the mids on the M80s are ever so slightly recessed/V-shaped? Not as recessed as the HD25 but basically on the same page as the HDJ-2000 (smiley-shaped). I've heard more upfront mids with other 'phones (eg. MS400) but I just don't hear that bump in the mids with the M80. The mids are clear and well defined but I perceive them to be just slightly distant especially with the stronger bass. Wondering if anyone hears that.

 

Anyway, awesome job on the notes/review Armaegis. Much appreciated.

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post #103 of 432
10/15/11 at 10:37am
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I tend to roughly define mids as the human vocal range, so about 100-1000Hz, which I think is lower than what other people define it as. 

 

I would agree that the mids on the M80 are roughly on par with the HDJ-2000. The bump up I described is really quite small in magnitude, and less than other headphones typically. 

 

I just realized I forgot to add the notes for mids/treble for the M80 and TMA-1...oops. I'll get to that maybe tomorrow. I too would describe the highs as slightly distant (which I think is an excellent word for it; I may have to steal that). They have a slight resonance and/or echo to them which helps create a sense of staging but blurs out some definition. Finger snaps and cymbals just don't come out as crisp as others. 

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post #104 of 432
10/15/11 at 10:41am

Wow, that's just too much. That makes me feel better about the $414 that I paid.

 

BTW, how do you think the HDJ-2000 would fit as a portable headphone?

 

 

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Hey look, $650 for Canadians... http://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-650-Lightweight-Audiophile/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318625096&sr=8-1

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post #105 of 432
10/15/11 at 10:45am

should I regret buying the hd25 adidas over the M80? For just about all genres, maybe a little more hip hop, dubstep, techno, dnb, house, and rock?

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