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Lcd 2 is on his way to the new daddy... time to charge my m8 batteries

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Received them yesterday and I am positively impressed, yes they cost more of the he 400, but these headphones are the definition for quality, the touch and feel is great. Comfort wise are way superior than the hifiman, heavier yes, but softer and the clamp is fine. I was expecting to find the response graph, but it wasn't in the box, is that normal? Sound wise never heard such clarity with my hd650, I could really feel the music in my head, and get lost in the details. I'm infatuated! Next balanced cable ( I love the xlr connection)
Edited by thomascrown - 7/15/14 at 6:18am
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Received them yesterday and I am positively impressed, yes they cost more of the he 400, but these headphones are the definition for quality, the touch and feel is great. Comfort wise are way superior than the hifiman, heavier yes, but softer and the clamp is fine. I was expecting to find the response graph, but it wasn't in the box, is that normal? Sound wise never heard such clarity with my hd650, I could really feel the music in my head, and get lost in the details. I'm infatuated! Next balanced cable ( I love the xlr connection)

Did you purchase your LCD-2's new?Just curious if you have the fazor version,if so any sign of them being a little too bright or fatiguing in any way?I expect to take delivery of my fazor LCD-2's tomorrow,had one in the past that was pre fazor and it sounded wonderful,but am a little nervous that some reports have the fazor versions sounding quite a bit brighter and less smooth.

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Received them yesterday and I am positively impressed, yes they cost more of the he 400, but these headphones are the definition for quality, the touch and feel is great. Comfort wise are way superior than the hifiman, heavier yes, but softer and the clamp is fine. I was expecting to find the response graph, but it wasn't in the box, is that normal? Sound wise never heard such clarity with my hd650, I could really feel the music in my head, and get lost in the details. I'm infatuated! Next balanced cable ( I love the xlr connection)

 

From what I've heard they no longer put the graph in the box, but if you email them they'll email it to you.

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Did you purchase your LCD-2's new?Just curious if you have the fazor version,if so any sign of them being a little too bright or fatiguing in any way?I expect to take delivery of my fazor LCD-2's tomorrow,had one in the past that was pre fazor and it sounded wonderful,but am a little nervous that some reports have the fazor versions sounding quite a bit brighter and less smooth.

Yes, brand new, 4/4/2014 made, fazor (I touched the driver to check), indeed they are less bassy than the hd650, but definitively less "muddy", I equalized a little the low frequencies with the rear switch of my m8, to give more warmth, and reduced the trebles that I usually keep at the highest setting (to give air the the hd650), but for my tastes, I felt them immediately "right" when I first tried them with the older settings; I had the opposite feeling with the he-400 at the first listening, at the point I was afraid the cable wasn't well connected (and how you can tell with that screwy thing?). Now, I never felt them fatiguing, but consider I listened them for less an hour yesterday (long day at work), and I guess it's also a subjective matter. I haven't any experience with the older model, so I can't really tell the difference, sorry.

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Did you purchase your LCD-2's new?Just curious if you have the fazor version,if so any sign of them being a little too bright or fatiguing in any way?I expect to take delivery of my fazor LCD-2's tomorrow,had one in the past that was pre fazor and it sounded wonderful,but am a little nervous that some reports have the fazor versions sounding quite a bit brighter and less smooth.

They're still really smooth, and I don't understand claims of brightness... they're maybe just a tad more open on the very top end of treble, but that could be from something as small as pad changes. I think you'll be fine, let us know what you think!

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Did you purchase your LCD-2's new?Just curious if you have the fazor version,if so any sign of them being a little too bright or fatiguing in any way?I expect to take delivery of my fazor LCD-2's tomorrow,had one in the past that was pre fazor and it sounded wonderful,but am a little nervous that some reports have the fazor versions sounding quite a bit brighter and less smooth.

They're still really smooth, and I don't understand claims of brightness... they're maybe just a tad more open on the very top end of treble, but that could be from something as small as pad changes. I think you'll be fine, let us know what you think!

Will do,but I also purchased a Violectric V200,not expecting it for at least a week.My conclusions wont come until Vio arrives,I know from owning it previously with the older LCD-2's they worked REALLY well together.

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From what I've heard they no longer put the graph in the box, but if you email them they'll email it to you.


Indeed, I've been just confirmed about that by their customer service.

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I just took delivery of my LCD-2F's,right out of the box my fears of it sounding a little bright were gone.My past LCD-X's I felt were too cold and sterile,the fazored 2's in my opinion still have that creamy smooth audeze sound.Right now they do sound a little muffled but I assume 100 hrs of burn should help that.I am a burn-in believer,heard it on too many headphones to believe it's just in my head.I am using a DA8 right now with its internal amp,should have my Violectric V200 in a few days and expect a nice improvement there also.So far so good...................
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So what's the summary on LCD-2.2 vs. LCD-2 Razor?

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So what's the summary on LCD-2.2 vs. LCD-2 Razor?
That's a tough question due to the fact that the earlier 2.2's sound a fair bit different than the 2.2's that were produced just before the fazor units.I had a pre fazor LCD-3 that had to get the drivers replaced and ended up also getting the fazors put in,I didn't even know it had fazors until a month after using them,so I'm of the opinion the fazor itself doesn't change the overall sound that much.I assume the fazors on the 2's would have a similar effect,a slight bit more energy up top with a little wider presentation,but again not a huge difference.
Edited by dfarina - 7/16/14 at 6:34pm
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Perhaps slightly less sub-bass, warmth, naturalness, intimacy, but Fazor adds incredible imaging and staging in the mids, and the treble doesn't change too much. I think the average Head-Fi user would welcome the addition of the Fazor... it makes them objectively superior, and it's still an LCD-2 :gs1000smile:.

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Good. I loved the old LCD-2, even more so than my LCD-3, which was also pre-fazor.

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So what's the summary on LCD-2.2 vs. LCD-2 Razor?
That's a tough question due to the fact that the earlier 2.2's sound a fair bit different than the 2.2's that were produced just before the fazor units.I had a pre fazor LCD-3 that had to get the drivers replaced and ended up also getting the fazors put in,I didn't even know it had fazors until a month after using them,so I'm of the opinion the fazor itself doesn't change the overall sound that much.I assume the fazors on the 2's would have a similar effect,a slight bit more energy up top with a little wider presentation,but again not a huge difference.


you had the fazor fitted with a new pair of older 50ohm drivers or updated the drivers too, to the new 110omh?

 

anyway i had an early lcd2.2 wooden connectors, now i'm in the proces of getting a new lcd2f, can't wait, the lcd2 most satisfying cans i ever had, and i had quite a few flagships :D

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I've A/B'd my hd650 (balanced) with the lcd2 (s.e.) yesterday using my hdva600 and blimey, how different they sound! The hd650 has louder trebles and bass but everything sounds compressed and almost messy, on the other side the lcd has faster pace, better resolution and distribute the instruments evenly in the space, but for instance, in one song I was listening during the comparison, the cymbals were lost in the distance, while strong and clear in the hd650. During the listening session I realized also that the super soft earpads are really a bliss, I wore the lcd2 for a for another hour and I hadn't any problem with their weight or clamp force.

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