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Gungnir sounds pretty amazing with the LCD-2 as well.

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BMC PureDAC
Meier StageDAC

See threads re Beresford Bushmaster as well. Very cheap yet resolves better with my 2.1 than Bifrost
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Originally Posted by montanari View Post
 

the V281, balanced, it cost about 2200$, and it compete with bryston that costs 1600$ about, and the taurus (1900$)

so it s more expansive

the v220 is SE, and i think 1200 is pretty expansive

we can say that the v200 is competitive, but it s the old model, not the v220 or 281

...

i tried the v200, after that i bought the burson conductor, with so many doubt (would be better the violectric or the burson.. you know)

and i prefer, with audeze lcd2.2, the burson (soloist if we want to discuss only about the amps)

 

i m glad that for you it s not expansive at all, i will send you a pm with my bank coordinates, if you can make me a little bank transfer!

 

ciaooo 

 

$2200?????????

 

Wat

 

Man, I told you, I just pre-ordered the V281 for 1350€ which is way less than $2200, also, the Taurus here is 1900€ and the Bryston is 1650€

 

So they are more expensive.

 

Glad you like the Conductor, or the soloist, a friend of mine has the soloist, and it its barely an upgrade from my matrix m-stage running the 2.2s (sad thing), so I didnt like the Soloist at all, the V200 is way way better, black and white. Its not just the older model, you can like older models and they shouldnt be worse, Bursons HA-160 is still very well regarded.

 

And FYI, the Soloist here is 1000€ and the Conductor 1750€ which is WAY more than the V281.

 

Very best.


Edited by Megalomaniak - 4/22/14 at 12:38pm
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$2200?????????

 

Wat

 

Man, I told you, I just pre-ordered the V281 for 1350€ which is way less than $2200, also, the Taurus here is 1900€ and the Bryston is 1650€

 

So they are more expensive.

 

Glad you like the Conductor, or the soloist, a friend of mine has the soloist, and it its barely an upgrade from my matrix m-stage running the 2.2s (sad thing), so I didnt like the Soloist at all, the V200 is way way better, black and white. Its not just the older model, you can like older models and they shouldnt be worse, Bursons HA-160 is still very well regarded.

 

And FYI, the Soloist here is 1000€ and the Conductor 1750€ which is WAY more than the V281.

 

Very best.

Good to know about the correct prices of the new violectrics

i read different prices in mine italian forum..

i compared the v200/v800 and the the conductor and i prefer the conductor..

the top is conductor (soloist) / v800

regarding his price: with 1750 you get a pre/sabre dac/soloist head amp.. it s not comparable to the v200,281 etc etc..you should add the v800 for a correct comparison (and we are still without preamp..)

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Where do you preorder the V281?

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Good to know about the correct prices of the new violectrics

i read different prices in mine italian forum..

i compared the v200/v800 and the the conductor and i prefer the conductor..

the top is conductor (soloist) / v800

regarding his price: with 1750 you get a pre/sabre dac/soloist head amp.. it s not comparable to the v200,281 etc etc..you should add the v800 for a correct comparison (and we are still without preamp..)

 

V220 and V281 are Pre and Amp, old V200 had no pre-amp output due to the back XLR output / input. If you use unbalanced input, you can select balanced output but the headphone output stops working, if you use XLR input, same but in order to use headphones, none of the back i/o can be an output.

 

Now, the V220 and V281 have separated lines, no Input/ouput lines 2 in 1 like V200. Look here http://www.head-fi.org/t/705318/violectric-hpa-v281-vorsprung-durch-balanced

 

And why should I add the V800 if I dont want it? Its a damn expensive DAC, I prefer Audio GD stuff or Matrix Sabre stuff, cheaper and high end quality.

 

Also if you want to correctly compare the V281 vs the Conductor, you should add a balanced output to the Conductor and 4x times power (Conductor delivers 4w at 8ohms, around 1w at 50 and decreasing) while V281 is rated in 35Veff...

 

Im not your enemy here...

 

Very best,

 

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Where do you preorder the V281?

Mail Lake People for info, no payment needed until delivery.


Edited by Megalomaniak - 4/23/14 at 4:14am
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And why should I add the V800 if I dont want it? Its a damn expensive DAC, I prefer Audio GD stuff or Matrix Sabre stuff, cheaper and high end quality.

 

Also if you want to correctly compare the V281 vs the Conductor, you should add a balanced output to the Conductor and 4x times power (Conductor delivers 4w at 8ohms, around 1w at 50 and decreasing) while V281 is rated in 35Veff...

 

Im not your enemy here...

 

Very best,

 

Mail Lake People for info, no payment needed until delivery.

 

i meant that the conductor is a dac/amp, the violectric is ampo only, so you should add the violectric dac as well

do you work for lake people? :)

ciao

Daniele

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i meant that the conductor is a dac/amp, the violectric is ampo only, so you should add the violectric dac as well

do you work for lake people? :)

ciao

Daniele

 

Haha, no I dont, but I do like very much their products (as I like JDS ones, Matrix, Audeze, Ifi Audio, and many others). And if you think I defend Violectric stuff, you should see me defending Audeze or Matrix stuff haha, its a joke, I respect people's choices.

 

You can add a 24/192 dac module for 200€ if you wanna.

 

Remember that this started with a missunderstanding about the pricing, now that we see that the pricing is less than you though and it delivers a huge amount of clean & precise voltage, seems a better choice. To buy or not to buy, depends on each one.

 

Very best,

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I received my LCD-2 yesterday (FR graph is from July 2013) and am very impressed. They already had around 100-150 hours on them, but I was quite underwhelmed at first - where was this smoothness everyone was talking about? Some songs actually sounded a little "harsh" to my ears. Things were getting better towards the end of the evening, but by this morning, as my ears/brain adjusted, they sound absolutely fantastic. Wonderfully smooth and oh so much fun.

 

A couple of interesting things to report, though:

 

I have absolutely no idea what people are talking about when they say this is a dark headphone. I was coming from the Beyer T1 as well. They sound pretty neutral to me and are very natural, although I'm guessing the Rev1 might be a different story.

 

Compared to the T1 - soundstage isn't that much smaller than I expected it to be, better bass, more full-bodied/richer, more fun, vocals are no longer distant, very heavy compared to the T1 but still quite comfortable, very smooth mids and highs (no chance of sibilance/fatigue here) and much more forgiving. They do look a little ridiculous from a head-on view but stylish from side-on!

 

I suppose the LCD2 was always going to suit me better, considering I mostly listen to modern guitar and vocal centric music.

 

Here's my graph:

 

 

Looking at other graphs I haven't found any that peak quite as much at 10k, but it all sounds good to me.

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Originally Posted by sotto123 View Post
 

I received my LCD-2 yesterday (FR graph is from July 2013) and am very impressed. They already had around 100-150 hours on them, but I was quite underwhelmed at first - where was this smoothness everyone was talking about? Some songs actually sounded a little "harsh" to my ears. Things were getting better towards the end of the evening, but by this morning, as my ears/brain adjusted, they sound absolutely fantastic. Wonderfully smooth and oh so much fun.

 

A couple of interesting things to report, though:

 

I have absolutely no idea what people are talking about when they say this is a dark headphone. I was coming from the Beyer T1 as well. They sound pretty neutral to me and are very natural, although I'm guessing the Rev1 might be a different story.

 

Compared to the T1 - soundstage isn't that much smaller than I expected it to be, better bass, more full-bodied/richer, more fun, vocals are no longer distant, very heavy compared to the T1 but still quite comfortable, very smooth mids and highs (no chance of sibilance/fatigue here) and much more forgiving. They do look a little ridiculous from a head-on view but stylish from side-on!

 

I suppose the LCD2 was always going to suit me better, considering I mostly listen to modern guitar and vocal centric music.

 

Here's my graph:

 

 

Looking at other graphs I haven't found any that peak quite as much at 10k, but it all sounds good to me.

 

In the Spanish Forums we call the LCD-2 more as Laid Back sound, not recessed highs or anything like that. The treble is awesome, well extended and detailed. Recessed treble would be the HD650s or Momentum headphones.

 

My graph:

 

 

And I had the HE-500 and HE-400, plus I own the DT880 and K701 atm, which are pretty bright.

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